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Lots of people haven't understood that the mask is not to protect themselves, but to protect other people.
If you are not infected yourself, the mask is "essentially inessential".
If you are infected, it helps to avoid that you do not spread the virus to others. Like if you were quarantined.
We should be aware that you may be infected, and spread the virus, even if you have only very light symptoms. So if you suspect that you might possibly be infected, it might be a good idea to wear a mask, even at home to avoid being a virus fountain at home.
My guess is that if you are living in the same household, the virus will unconditionally spread to all of you - masks or not.
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Member 7989122 wrote: My guess is that if you are living in the same household, the virus will unconditionally spread to all of you Logic would suggest that, but time and again I'm hearing "survivor" stories on the tv where one person in the household almost dies, their partner / children / others in the house don't even get it. Suggests that it's not as communicable as we perhaps think, and that just following basic "normal" hygiene (not coughing in people's faces, washing hands, i.e. basic common sense and good manners) is as much, if not more, important than the whole gloves / masks thing...?
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There are some indications that a large fraction of the public may have been corona infected without showing significant symptoms, and have become immune. But then, there are indications that the immunity may be quite short lived; several have been corona sick for the second time.
It might very well be that those "not getting it" are indeed getting it, even though they do not show any symptoms. If they leave the house, they may be spreading it to whoever they meet.
The other day there was a note in Norwegian newspapers about one lady who was quarantened: On day 13 of her isolation, the first symptoms appeared. Bottom line: We should make premature conclusions.
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DerekT-P wrote: Logic would suggest that, but time and again I'm hearing "survivor" stories on the tv where one person in the household almost dies, their partner / children / others in the house don't even get it.
I have a friend who got it, but no one else in his household did. Hopefully one day we'll understand this thing better.
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While that is now the line from CDC the real studies show that a parent caring for a child with flu is 50% less likely to get said flu. That was found using a standard surgical mask and N95 respirators. The respirators did slightly better but not much.
A couple studies have shown that in the real world a triple cloth mask catches close to the same amount at the surgical masks because most is from larger droplets anyway.
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The mask doesn't keep the wearer from getting a virus. It protects the wearer from spreading the virus.
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I do - when I have to go shopping it's normally two supermarkets: so I put the mask on before entering the first and take it off when I leave the second. I only have the one mask, and don't want to waste more (though Herself would give me them) so it gets shut in the boot until next time I shop. (Since the virus survives in paper for only two days apparently, it's safe to wear again next time.)
Does try to fog up my glasses, but a tiny, tiny drop of washing up liquid wiped on and buffed off prevents that (I learned that one riding motorcycles - a misted up visor is not a lot of use, and the detergent removes the surface tension from the moisture, and it forms an even film instead of the droplets which fog the glass / plastic.)
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OriginalGriff wrote: tiny, tiny drop of washing up liquid wiped on and buffed off prevents that Interesting.
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I will have to try this for sure.
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Actually the virus breaks down fairly rapidly in a mask. While it is detectable for three days I’m a hard surface less than 0.01 percent is remaining. And that is about 4 hours for cardboard. Don’t know about a mask, but likely even less.
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Traffic cameras, same as always.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Traffic cameras, same as always. So you can run a red light now?
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Better put a mask on the license plate too.
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I'll stick with my revolving plates.
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The local bank is no longer providing services at the counter; you have to use the ATM.
They showed my dad how to pay a bill with it last week. He had another one to pay a few days ago, so to make sure we wasn't gonna get stuck somewhere, he asked me to tag along with him.
As he was using the ATM with me watching, some guy walked in behind us and commented that we (me and my dad) should stay 6 feet apart. I pointed out that we came from the same place, and had arrived there in the same car, and no matter where we sat in the car, there isn't 6 feet apart from any combination of seats.
He still insisted that me and my dad should still have stayed further away from each other while we were there.
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dandy72 wrote: I pointed out that we came from the same place, and had arrived there in the same car, and no matter where we sat in the car, there isn't 6 feet apart from any combination of seats. Ya, there's a lot of hysteria around this thing. Just don't let hysteria rule your decision making.
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It would be a far better world if some folks could just mind their own effing business.
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But... do you keep the social distancing? huh? huh?
I would like to be able to vote your post higher than the Empire State...
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Masks aren't there to protect the one who wears it.
It is there to protect the public. Someone in a car is bound to exit it. So yes, makes sense to wear one while in a car.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: Masks aren't there to protect the one who wears it. Not true, but whatever.
Eddy Vluggen wrote: exit
Eddy Vluggen wrote: wear one while in a car.
Ummmm.....
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ZurdoDev wrote: Not true, but whatever. Don't care any bit about your non argumented petty opinion.
The mask helps with limiting the spreading, since a cough has not the same reach. It does not protect the wearer, since you can get it from touching stuff. It protects those around you by limiting your coughing distance. You agreeing or not does not change that in any way - and since you have no arguments, you agreeing is not even relevant.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: and since you have no arguments, you agreeing is not even relevant.
Wearing the mask can help me from not getting it if someone sneezed near me. Didn't realize I needed to make such a simple argument. But there it is. Or, to strengthen the argument, if it can be transmitted via breathing, then it protects me from those breathing around me.
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ZurdoDev wrote: Wearing the mask can help me from not getting it if someone sneezed near me. No, it won't; but it will help when you sneeze.
ZurdoDev wrote: Didn't realize I needed to make such a simple argument. But there it is. I never realized I'd be educating you without being paid for it.
ZurdoDev wrote: Or, to strengthen the argument, if it can be transmitted via breathing, then it protects me from those breathing around me. You have the right to "believe" that, as you have the right to believe in God. I'm not explaining anything for free.
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