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Stuff that's written online tends to be written online. So it relies on online spell checkers, but rarely grammar checks. I cringe every time I see "lead" instead of "led", "principal" instead of "principle", and worst of all "could of" instead of "could have" etc. But part of the reason, at least in the UK, is down to what is being taught in schools and universities. Once they abandoned the formal teaching of rules and replaced it with free thinking then spelling and grammar were no longer known. So you had a generation (or more than one) that never learned these things but still became employed as writers and editors.
Microsoft word has a lot to answer for. As do all similar applications.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: you had a generation (or more than one) that never learned these things but still became employed as writers and editors.
... and teachers ...
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I'm not even English and I cringe every time I see "there", "their" and "they're" being used wrongly.
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Exactly so, and the problem is just compounded by the fact that non-English speaking children, like you, get taught the rules. I used to support our European teams, both remotely and via customer visits in my last job. I was always impressed with the standards of spoken and written English. And when someone was not sure how to use the correct word or phrase, they would always ask first.
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That reminds me of my German teacher; she said she had to teach us English before she could teach us German.
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I blame TxtSpk - it encourages people to get it wrong bcos its qikr bt u no wat i syng
And punctuation is for losers!
The Militant Wing of the Apostrophe Protection Society shall hear of this!
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OriginalGriff wrote: bcos its qikr bt u no wat i syng
It's it's not its .
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: It's "it's " not "its ".
FTFY!
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OriginalGriff wrote: And punctuation is for losers! ??????????????????
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John R. Shaw wrote: Have fun taring apart the above
I assume that you put that in just to see if anyone was taking notice
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I was expecting some feathers to go along with the tar.
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"I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone
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This is part of world digitalization. The target nowadays is to get the information transmitted quickly, disregarding the formatting.
If I tell you that your smart, you got the message, even though I used your instead of your're. Grammar is eventually only important to those who consider it important, and fact is that it is not important to transmit content. Do not get me wrong, I enjoy reading a text free of mistakes, but it is because I am an old fart whom it was taught that writing correctly was as important as the content of the message itself. This is not true anymore : in no times there will be nobody anymore shocked by texts full of mistakes - the checkers will be as ignorant as the writers.
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Rage wrote: writing correctly was as important as the content of the message itself. This is not true anymore
"Let's eat grandma" or "Let's eat, grandma"
Punctuation saves lives!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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john where james had had had had had had had had had had had the teachers approval Punctuate that - or better still, make sense of it without the punctuation. Punctuation IS content, it tells you so much, and alters - sometimes dramatically - the meaning. Why don't people understand that?? (Thanks Daniel for that example; not seen that one before but shows how a comma can save a life!)
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The irony being, of course, that our digitized world is driven by software that is 100 times more pernickety about punctuation than the worst/best of us! (Including white space in some cases...) I wonder how some of today's "yoof" react when put before VisualStudio and expected to understand that it actually matters whether you use a capital letter or not, or that a comma and a semi-colon are not in fact interchangeable.
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Rage wrote: his is not true anymore : in no times there will be nobody anymore shocked by texts full of mistakes - the checkers will be as ignorant as the writers. That ship has already sailed.
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John R. Shaw wrote: what we writwrote makes sense.
John R. Shaw wrote: Have fun taringtearing apart the above
Pots and Kettles...
To answer your rant, most publishers no longer employ editors or proofreaders. They rely on the spelling correction and grammar in word processors, which -as long as English is not replaced by LOGLAN - will never be perfect.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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You don't care about his "made now effort to correct mistakes" then...
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Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I think he just bringing home his point in a cringe-worthy fashion, just like in the title of the thread.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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Congratulations; you appear to be the first person to catch the 'writ' error.
INTP
"Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra
"I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone
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I'd only just spotted it as well!
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Hate to brag*, but I'm a published author.
Before I handed in a chapter to my editor I double checked if everything was correct.
My editor barely made any corrections, and when he did make a suggestion it was often something weird like "maybe you can explain what 'x' is or maybe not, your call."
At one point I got another editor and he read the already edited chapters as well, still no corrections.
When my book was published and I got the physical copy I was proud.
I opened my book on a random page and the first thing I noticed was a #@$&#!@^&^&! TYPO!
This was written and double checked by me, two editors, a technical editor and finally someone who does a final check on spelling and grammar.
What I think is happening here is that everyone thinks the next person is going to fix it, but that person thinks the same.
That sort of behavior happens everywhere.
For example, the piles under my house were too short and my house started to sink into the ground (during construction, luckily).
The piling(?) company, the construction company, local authorities, some overarching builders group, and I think three more parties looked at a plan to fix it and came to an agreement.
The plan failed and in hindsight it never could've worked.
Seven(!) parties did no do their job and an entire row of houses had to be demolished in order to get good piles into the ground (they went from 6 m to 21 m, so go figure).
If that happens to a row of houses it could sure as hell happen to some book or article that may or may not be read.
OK, I love it, but I'm obliged to say that if I don't want to sound like a douche
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Sander Rossel wrote: it never could've worked. Most native English (and American) speakers would've written "could of", and do not even understand why it's (i.e. 'it is') wrong.
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