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Greg Utas wrote: He probably doesn't dodge
When you two say dodge are you actually mis-spelling doge(coin)[^].
Just not sure.
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No, but I think they picked a good name.
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By "invented", I mean that laundering only became a chargeable crime recently. The crime that yielded the proceeds should be punished. But some folks think punishments for those crimes are too light, so they invent new crimes that can be piled on to run up a prison term.
You're right that cryptos aren't completely private. They can be traced by following a chain of transactions into, or out of, an address whose owner has already been identified.
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Recently? Not quite: 1980's / 1990s for most countries, including the US (Money Laundering Control Act 1986) and Canada (Proceeds of Crime [Money Laundering] Act 1991)
And don't forget - Al Capone was only caught for tax evasion on his laundered money!
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That's recent in my books.
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Laundering is a "vehicle"; you're overthinking it.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
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OriginalGriff wrote: You don't need that kind of attention, so you need to launder the money.
I'm not going to even try to describe how you do that; I haven't got a clue.
After 3 seasons watching Ozark, I'm still mostly clueless.
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One way they launder money in Canada: Quebec and British Columbia "provincial" gambling casinos (and lotteries) that have been ignoring (table) limits. The provincial governments have been some of the worst enablers.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Owning the casino is an even better way of doing it ...
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Silk Road, etc.
And we ain't talking Marco Polo.
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"liquidate" the payment... isn't Bitcoin about the most liquid form of currency anyway? Accepted at outlets globally, no inter-national conversion involved.
Why is holding on to Bitcoin any different than me holding on to a £20 note? Couldn't you turn this on its head and say "Tesla take cash payments, but sometimes put it in the bank without converting it to Bitcoin immediately"? At some points in the past, doing that would have been the sensible thing to do (in retrospect) with Bitcoin growing in value so fast.
So long as Bitcoin (or other virtual currencies) are seen purely as a transactional device rather than having intrinsic value, then crypto-currency will never really become mainstream. To support that, national Governments will need to accept balance sheets that include crypto assets and include it in tax calculations etc.
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I don't think they'll actually "hold" it.
On the one hand they're trying to make kleptocurrency sound "legit" (by hyping dodgecoin), but they'll dump it as soon as someone transacts with it ... at the same time facilitating any laundering.
When you're already worth "billions", are you seriously going to hope to make a few more by sitting on it when the chances of it loosing value are perhaps more likely.
Your £20 will still be £20, more or less, a few months from now; can't say the same for your BTC that you exchanged for goods that you manufactured and paid your suppliers and workers for (with £20 notes).
Call me cynical ... and Warren Buffet a dummy.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
modified 13-Feb-21 6:32am.
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OK, you're cynical.
And Warren Buffett is a good investor but a dummy when it comes to money. Have you ever read what he's said about gold? It must be daddy issues, because his father was a senator and an advocate for the gold standard. But Warren could end up being right about BTC.
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$85 Billion stupid ... get a grip.
Quote: Warren Buffett isn't a big fan of cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin. “Cryptocurrencies basically have no value,” he once told CNBC. “You can't do anything with it except sell it to somebody else. But then that person's got the problem.”Jan. 19, 2021
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
modified 13-Feb-21 7:37am.
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Being a good investor and having an thoughtful opinion on the nature of money aren't necessarily correlated.
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And that's supposed to be deep?
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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It would come as a surprise to some and explains why Warren is something of a savant.
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Grasping: the "money idiot" savant. "A 'good' investor with no sense for money."
Funny how $ are used as the measuring stick, and not BTC.
I think he probably realized that a "business plan" that hinged on the value of BTC was no plan at all.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Your headline made me read; I seem to have more than one face indeed.
Gerry Schmitz wrote: If customers buy Teslas with bitcoin, the company may or may not liquidate those payments right away — which some experts read as an indication that Tesla might hold on to at least some of the coins and not sell them automatically. Hehe; Tesla. The one with the military vehicle whose windows not bullet proof.
They know what their cars worth, so good idea to invest into something else, even from their perspective.
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modified 13-Feb-21 14:51pm.
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If Oxygen went on a date with Potassium, would it all go OK?
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I C Y U R Hg-ing
Bite that W∴ Balboos!
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:grabs popcorn; sits back to watch:
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You Aurum azing! A natrium for Pu N and my possibility for clever retorts argon.
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He He Ru not Einstenium today, Mr ∴?
I will Ne Li, U win these contests Al 9/10. But I hope Og will not call it a Ti today.
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