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Namesilo is a legitimate DNS hosting and web hosting company (I happen to use them myself, amongst others). They have a complaints procedure and you can tell them what is happening and that your IP is being used without your permission for fraudulent purposes. They should act on this information.
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That's very useful - Thanks
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Les mt wrote: My business partner did this when we initially set up (many years ago before the internet ) and then quietly under the radar the UK decided to put all its records on line in public display. This is one of the side effects of ill-conceived pre GDPR policy, I don't ever remember them asking us if it was OK!
No it was not under the radar: It has always been this way, and quite rightly too. Limited company records have always been publicly available. Making them accessible via the Internet was just the continuation of the previous status quo.
This is nothing to do with "pre-GDPR". Even if the Internet had come along post-GDPR, these records would still be fully public. Why? Because limited company details are not private, should not be private, and never have been private. A limited company is not a person who can claim privacy (although it can be used as a legal person, but that's a different thing).
When you and your business partner set up your limited company pre-Internet, your company data was already publicly accessible via Companies House and its branches. When Internet accessibility came along, nothing changed. What was public before was still public afterwards.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Looking into the UK's laws - electronic identity theft is not exists at all. From the perspective of the company. Don't forget there's a bunch of customers complaining about theft and fraud.
Very real crimes. Police gets involved before the numbers gets so big they attract media attention.
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I think in this case, perhaps a lawyer would be better.
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You could put a warning on your site that PQRltd.com are a bunch of thieves. But then you will probably get a visit from PC Plod.
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But if he says something like "PQRltd.com is an independent site, having no connection to PQR.co.uk", that would pass muster. How much good that would do, I don't know.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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But don't do it in a way that you "attack" them... if not they could even sue you for defamation or something like that
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Les mt wrote: Where's the Police? Well, according to Wikipedia[^], they have been in retirement since 2008...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. Mark Twain
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Though they did anticipate social distancing The Police - Don't Stand So Close To Me - YouTube[^]
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and they are practicing it now.........
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Your scope of action will highly depend on where their website is hosted.
I do not think that much can be do unfortunately, but a lawyer will be of help.
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Les mt wrote:
Any suggestions what realistic action I can take to try and stop the fraud taking place? What have you been defrauded of?
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I did not say we have been defrauded but the fraud is taking place using our names and contact details.
We are caught up in the loop whether we like it or not We are the ones that have to field the phone calls of the victims because they have cloned our contact details and have impersonated our company - to my mind this is a crime involving fraud, it seems to me the UK police don't have an obvious system of dealing with it.
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Les mt wrote: I did not say we have been defrauded but the fraud is taking place using our names and contact details.
Then they may well be defaming your company. Not that the police will care about that: It's a civil matter.
The people who have actually been defrauded need to contact the UK police and/or their local police. Contacting police across national boundaries is not unheard of at all. I know of people who have been defrauded in the UK contacting both US and German police to report fraudsters.
P.S. I should add that, from what I have seen, both US and German police have in the cases I know of (that is private, fraudulent high value watch sales) proven to be considerably more helpful than UK police. UK police have often said in such circumstances, quite incorrectly, that it's a civil matter (by which they mean that someone has 'accidentally' forgotten to pay or 'accidentally' not sent the item) rather than wanting to accept that the non-payment or non-delivery was intentional and obviously criminal.
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a) Find out their street address
b) Burn down the building
Now people will pay attention.
For the humor-impaired: This is a joke.
Sad that people have to make this disclaimer nowadays...
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Does your joke mean: People will not pay attention?
I make my best to understand the joke.
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Yes. Apparently identify fraud isn't worth their time. The joke is to escalate matters, and see whether that draws their attention...
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Not enough police to go around. They pick their battles.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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It is quite a common. We have an 'awareness' program for our staff. Unfortunately we don't have one for our customers.
Not giving away out company name, lets assume we are Evil Corporation, and out domain is evil.com.
Some bright kid registered evill.com; two Ls at the end. He then emailed one of our customers and said our banking details had changed.
This is the customer's loss, because he still has to pay us.
The domain was registered through a questionable ISP making it very difficult to trace the true owner.
My advice to the customer was to have the police follow the money; into who's bank account was the money paid.
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.
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