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Throw it in the ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) ing recycle bin, and get a laser.
It sits there in low power standby all the time. I print, it grabs paper and prints, then goes back to low-power standby. No ink to evaporate, no Epson date-chip expiry, no spending half an hour trying to get enough print lines working to get a recognisable image ...
This is my second laser, and I got it second hand, three years old, still on it's original cartridges (which were low) from eBay for £50. It prints double sided at 16 ppm, single sided at 36ppm (Black and white) or colour at 32 ppm and holds over a ream of paper. A set of aftermarket cartridges cost me £40 six months ago and I still haven't even opened them yet ... 
Only drawback is size: it's pretty big compared to an inkjet.
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I was going to say much the same. I have a laser that's at least 10 years old, and "just works". I'm sure I've seen LaserJet III printers much older than that, just working, as long as you can get toner. Back in the day, HP knew how to build stuff that lasted, and didn't annoy the customers.
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k5054 wrote: Back in the day, HP knew how to build stuff that lasted,
They certainly did: not long ago I had to part ways with my LaserJet 6MP after almost 30 years of faithful service.
Along the way I started to use Canon MF printers (last one is also colour) and they aren't too bad either. However the previous Canon I had to let go because there were no scanner drivers for anything newer then Windows XP  .
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My father had the same problem, that's why I installed the scanner in a VM, the printer did worked in the Win 7
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Yes, I did the same thing for a couple of years but it was cumbersome to start computer, start VM, copy scanned document from VM to network.... In the end I found a newer Canon in rebate and replaced the old one.
The old printer was still working great over the network and I tried to give it for free but everyone who seemed interested was asking if it has Wifi. No one seemed to want a printer with only a LAN interface. In the end I had to dump it at a recycle centre... kids these days! 
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: Yes, I did the same thing for a couple of years but it was cumbersome to start computer, start VM, copy scanned document from VM to network.... In the end I found a newer Canon in rebate and replaced the old one.
Of course... it is not practical, but my father scans maybe once a year and I configured the output folder of the scanner already as a shared, so no need to copy from A to B.
But yes. I wouldn't do that myself. I do scan almost every important document. Keeping the paper and the electronic copies of it
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Nelek wrote: Keeping the paper and the electronic copies of it
Reminds me of an old joke:
Employee: Can we destroy these old documents?
Boss: Sure, but first make a copy!
Me, I'm aiming for a paperless house. Didn't happen yet but I'm on the right path.
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I live in a country where the agencies still use fax. 
Just want to be sure I can make them understand me in case of need.
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Have you been talking to my office manager and accountant?
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yep, never understand the point of a wireless printer. You going to carry it around with you? Much simpler to just plug the ethernet cable into the back of your wireless router and have done with it. It's not even like it's battery powered and you could print sitting by the pool (or the recycling bins...)
I have one (wireless) but the first thing I did was plug it in... 
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I abandoned scanners as well - my phone has a "document mode" which does a good job of correcting parallax. Wouldn't be suitable for bulk work, but I scan individual documents only these days - like when some strange individual sends me a paper cheque and I have to pay it in ... fortunately, my bank is more up to date than them! 
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HP wasn't keen to update the drivers, too. Fortunately their low-end was language compatible with some higher tiers, so we printed on a LJ1010 on W7 64 bit with first paper in 40 secs, 5 secs pause between pages
MS kicked them when they denied drivers for W10, making themselves a few, then HP cached up - 2 years after W10 launch.
Looks like the Samsung merger injected HP with some long needed customer service viewpoint.
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You should have search a bit on the web. I had the same problem but found a program called VueScan that had a driver for my newly unsupported scanner. It's got drivers for hundreds of scanners. It worked great for my scanner until the motor crapped out a couple years later. Another advantage of VueScan is that they also have a Linux version.
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k5054 wrote: Back in the day, HP knew how to build stuff that lasted, and didn't annoy the customers.
I have a LaserJet 4350 or some-such model, big office printer with all the accessories, that nobody wanted when the last place I worked at shut down. I don't use it much, but it is still working great, and it's got to be at least 20 years old by now (my previous employer had it for a few years, and the place shut down in 2007).
(That's not the problematic printer, obviously)
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Yep - mine is a Xerox VersaLink C400 office beast. I suspect the previous owners replaced it because they looked at the price of genuine toner cartridges and went  - £528! We'll dump it and buy a new one for that!
I got aftermarkets for £40 the set.
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I've got a Brother black and white laser and it's brilliant - I suffered inkjet woes for a few years and eventually thought, do I really need a colour printer ? no, I've had the brother ~ 10 years or so and it's only on its second toner cartridge. Wouldn't mind a colour printer though.
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pkfox wrote: Wouldn't mind a colour printer though.
I've had a Brother color printer for 7-8 years, on the second set of cartridges, and we print a fair amount. It just works. ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) inkjets.
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I've got a Brother color laser and it really does a nice job. Just don't believe it when it says a cartridge is getting low. You can find out how to reset the cartridge counter and continue printing for a large number of prints.
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Believe me, I have a laser. Two, in fact.
The problem with lasers is that they don't print on discs (it's a long story, don't ask). And I'm not gonna on print on CD labels.
But at least with the lasers, I never have toner problem, even if I might only print a page once every 3 months (and yes, that is representative of my use).
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Discs? How the heck did you interface the player?[^] 
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I can't tell whether you've ever seen these or not. The printer comes with a plastic tray (hopefully this link works) that you sit the CD on, then slide into a slot in the printer.
When it works - the results are quite remarkable. I've scanned, then printed, some discs and would have a really hard time telling which is the original and which is the copy, unless you can compare both side-by-side (and even then it might fool some people).
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OriginalGriff wrote: Throw it in the [mastadon] ing recycle bin, and get a laser.
ABSOLUTELY!!!
I figure I use up half the ink in cartridges cleaning the heads. Last time I needed to replace cartridges, I bit the bullet and purchased a Brother color multi-function laser that duplexes. It's given me ZERO problems.
It cost me more than I wanted to pay, but the lack of frustration and irritation is worth it.
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BryanFazekas wrote: It cost me more than I wanted to pay, but the lack of frustration and irritation is worth it.
Not only that, but you don't waste huge amounts of time trying to get it printing: turn on, print, turn off. I don't know what you time is worth, but it adds up quickly while swearing at inkjets and can easily make the laser more cost effective. even in the short term.
Not to mention lasers generally have higher PPM than inkjets so you aren't standing there twiddling your thumbs while it gets ready to paper jam itself ... 
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. . . And don't ever let it connect to the Internet. My laser was great until a firmware update created all the same "Vendor cartridge" related issues. Was super happy with it up to that point. Now it's junk.
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Only reason we have inkjet(s) is for photo printing. Lasers are great for documents, nothing beats them, but not so great for photographs. It's not always convenient to wait for a print shop to turn your prints around.
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