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Yup. My last company enacted a 6 (might have been 3) month deletion policy right after some other company's execs got in hot water due to deleted emails that had been archived. No exceptions. Actually, the policy came down from the holding company that owned the company I worked for, or maybe it was the holding company that owned that holding company.
Quote: If there's an email you need to retain, it has to be saved manually from Outlook somewhere else ...
By my company's definition there were no emails that had to be retained. Therefore they had to live with lost deleted specs, customer requests, etc. It wasn't very long before the policy was, shall we say, modified.
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A previous company I worked at implemented a retention policy under somewhat similar circumstances. The top lobbyist for our local Congressman turned out to be a crook. Because of his status as the #1 for our representative the company had hired him for stuff. For that mistake we enjoyed an investigation with multiple rounds of subpoenas over several years, culminating with the feds raiding the office one day and us all being turned around at the parking lot entrance.
The investigation eventually closed with them finding no evidence of wrong doing - or IIRC ever even explicitly confirming it was due to the crook my bosses made the mistake of hiring - but management ran a series of IT projects in reaction. They banned local PST files for Outlook, enlarged the serverside storage capacity about 10x, and then gave us a few months to migrate all messages we wanted to keep out of our local files or serverside inbox into an archive folder (that was part of the quota) before an X days delete policy was applied to the inbox and PSTs were disabled. They naturally didn't allow the use of overhead to try and find the critical messages we needed to keep.
Some people went through various elaborate ways to save all their old messages ranging from backing the PSTs up to DVD, using Acrobat (not reader) to export everything into enormous PDFs, saving messages off in individual .eml files, copying all new correspondence into one note, etc. Others were were just " it, the next time our long term client asks about something we discussed in email a few years ago, I'll just tell them that the company 'Evidence Destruction Policy' means I no longer have a copy of the exchange."
Outside of IT and senior management, everyone called it the 'Evidence Destruction Policy'; and while the intent probably was to make future subpoenas less difficult to respond to while giving them cover "we didn't deliberately delete anything, it was nuked automatically as part of a retention policy" for destroying records they probably ended up making it harder because of how many people employed off the books methods to preserve their old messages that would be much harder to automate finding and searching than just pulling PST files off laptops while they're connected to the office and searching them.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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Wow, companies do this?
That's just waiting for trouble...
I often need some email older than six months.
Saving it manually is a sure way to never find it again (I need to search for email content or sender).
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Quote: Also, please don't suggest search by date, because
Because I very seldom search emails older than 2 years (not to speak about 14 years old), it's enough comfortable to sort the search result by date...
I think you are asking for a feature which is necessary 0.1% of all cases. Think about if somebody request something like that from your products, would you really support it?
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Yeah, I know what you mean.
But the real issue is that the Outlook client doesn't "live scroll". What I mean is that when I grab the scroll bar to scroll down to another date, the list of email doesn't actually move until I let go of the thumb-wheel (name for scroll bar block that you grab).
Since it doesn't "live scroll" it means that I have to keep just nudging it a bit at a time to go back 2 years & it's almost impossible / takes a lot of time. since I make $42,000 / minute, it costs the company a lot of money for me to scroll this way. Trying to make a business-case.
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You're a programmer. Write an add-in for Outlook to do this.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I also keep emails since, well, forever (that means early '90es in my case) but break them by year. My naming scheme is "year_in", "year_out". That way I have a manageable size when I need to look for something. I get asked frequently for stuff from 2008-2009 and takes just a couple of minutes to find what I need.
Mircea
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While I like the idea, you just know the problem is that the next guy to come along will ask for the same thing, but to search by subject line instead...or sender...or message content...or some other criteria. You can't satisfy all people at once, so the solution is to do an Advanced Search and specify your own criteria. Then everybody can do what they want, but everybody has more clicks to go through to get there.
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After being thoroughly disappointed with the Wio Terminal, I picked up an M5 Stack Fire development kit.
For any of you that want to get started with IoT development this monster will let you code in C++ (Arduino, ESP-IDF) or MicroPython. And you don't have to wire anything.
This thing is gold plated in terms of its featureset. It's like some people sat around and asked "what can we realistically cram onto an ESP32?" and then they did it.
It also has a magnetic base and will attach to legos and will run on a chargeable LIPO battery. All in a neat package with stackable components for extending it.
It can do a lot. It's a great development kit and well worth the $50-$60
So if you want to get started on IoT development, or if you already have and you just want a heckin neat little widget, give this thing a shot.
Make sure you get the Fire edition. It has PSRAM.
Feature brief:
ESP32 xtensa6 based dual core @ 240mhz
Bluetooth/BLE
WiFi
8MB of PSRAM
16MB of Flash
ILI9342C 320x240x16bit screen (I think touchscreen, i may be wrong)
Simple speaker and microphone
3 programmable buttons
Built in gyroscope/accelerometer
Temperature sensor
LoRa radio (I think?)
SD Reader
Will connect to Grove components
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
modified 9-Jun-22 9:32am.
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Thanks for the link, looks like a very cool device.
The most expensive tool is a cheap tool. Gareth Branwyn
JaxCoder.com
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I'm intrigued enough that this might just be the thing to get me into IoT development.
"Currently unavailable" from Amazon.com, .ca and .co.uk.
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Try mouser
M5Stack Fire
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Thanks for that.
Now I dread to find out what you might have started...
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I'll be releasing a GFX enabled library for the M5 Stack shortly. I've already got it working, but I want to nail down support for all of the peripherals included and their are quite a few.
After I do that, it's an internet enabled weather and time station for the refrigerator.
In the process, I'm currently developing a regex to C++ state machine generator so I can parse JSON without using flash space for an entire JSON library.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I haven't even started yet. Stop putting ideas in my head.
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You could always hook a motor up to it.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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This sounds like a manufacturer created ad.
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Sorry, it's not. It's just a shameless plug from a really happy user.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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If someone's gonna advertise a product, this is the sort of thing I'd much rather see.
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Sorting objects in blob containers in Storage Explorer is a joke.
I have several thousand files in one container with Last Modified dates ranging from 6/3/2022 through 6/7/2022, and I need to delete all but those dated 6/7. I "sorted" them by the Last Modified date, ascending, and the first 100 cached items have dates of 6/3 and 6/4. I delete them, and after a few minutes the next 100 items are shown. There shouldn't be any more files from 6/3, but half of these are 6/3 files. I delete them, and rinse and repeat. Same date ranges, different files, dated 6/3 and 6/4.
This tool is better than nothing, but not by much.
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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This sounds like it is similar to a problem I encountered with Oracle some years ago (10+ years?).
In the previous version of Oracle (7 or 8?), a statement like
(my Oracle SQL syntax is rusty, so this may be incorrect)
SELECT TOP 1000 Surname
FROM Employees
ORDER BY Surname gave an alphabetical list of 1000 surnames starting at A and going as far as (say) C; but the next version (10?) gave an alphabetical list of 1000 surnames not necessarily starting with A and not necessarily ending with C. I spotted it, because my name used to appear in the answer, but then stopped appearing.
The reason (I worked out) was that the old version did the ORDER BY first, then the TOP 1000 (so they were pre-sorted then truncated); and the new version did the TOP 1000 first, then did the ORDER BY (so they were sorted after truncation meaning that you got a random sample). Both are - as I understand it - valid results from the SQL statement, but the difference upset a lot of people (including myself) who thought that they had been eliminated and not told about it.
My solution, to get my preferred old-style list, was something like
(again, my Oracle SQL is rusty)
SELECT TOP 1000 Surname
FROM
(
SELECT Surname
FROM Employees
ORDER BY Surname
) I don't think that your description fits that scenario; but could the caching have unsorted the data? Bad design if that is what had happened.
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Yeah, working with blobs like that is a drag.
I don't really work with blobs outside of my code anymore.
I can delete all or a few manually, but for that kind of work I write a quick console application that does the work for me
Luckily I rarely do that kind of stuff, it's mostly a few
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UPDATE:
I've received several helpful suggestions and have tried most of them.. I have been working with several members of the helpdesk team for a few weeks now. I will be receiving a fresh laptop TODAY. Lets see what happens with the new one.
Note: not a request for help, however comments/suggestions always appreciated.
<background>The company I work for is forcing this update onto my company owned laptop. This specific update messes with my network connection somewhere within the router/modem with the result that my connection will stay up for about 1 minute, then disconnect. This results in the system being unusable as I heavily rely on the connection.
<rant>I can roll back the update, however, the company keeps forcing the update, resulting in several hours wasted each week. I cannot stop the forced update, just wait till it is done, the roll back. UGH!!
I've been working remotely with the IT team and they've decided to ship a fresh laptop with the update installed. Here's hoping THAT one works.
modified 9-Jun-22 10:52am.
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Are you using WiFi? Only because similar issues have been reported for WiFi.
Me personally did not face problems after upgrading W10 to 20H2, but also not using WiFi.
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