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My future wife experienced screen sharing for first time. She was amazed. Everything of this sort comes under the word online for her. Being a medical professional, I do not really expect much from her. She wants to learn some programming for she can make her own website. Life is going to be fun.
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Unless she kills you one night... one to many 404 errors 
I despise web programming.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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d@nish wrote: My future wife experienced screen sharing for first time.
I was on a google hangout call a year or so ago with 3 other people. Blew me away, how you could see everyone, and whoever was speaking got the main window focus. It was fast and in sync, which I cannot say for Skype or, actually, subsequent Hangout calls. Maybe the people who were on the call were in high bandwidth areas (I know one was in SF.)
Anyways, I've been in this industry for years, I worked on video surveillance over the phone (using 14.4K modems and custom encryption algorithms), seen the 'net grow and grow, and frankly, I am still blown away by the fact that I can chat and see the people I'm chatting with in real time.
Why any "desk" job requires a 100% on site presence (or even 10%) with all this tech is absolutely beyond me. But don't get me started.
Marc
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Please. We recently got telecommute supervised and I am full of hatred.
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I like telecommute if I am working more than 40 hours.
Otherwise, its nice to have a reason to leave the house, see people you wouldn't normally interact with, and be available for in person meetings.
I worked at home for 2 years, I will never do it again.
I felt as if I should always be at my desk working, no matter how much I had worked that week. And unfortunately, I still have that feeling even though I do close to 0% telecommuting now.
That's just my experience.
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I'm with you 100%, Marc. There is absolutely no reason for me to be in the office, but they keep expecting me to show up. Hopefully I won the Powerball lottery tonight and won't have to show up again on Monday. Well, in truth, I might feel compelled to show up, just to gloat.
Will Rogers never met me.
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My car pooler and I had a deal. If either won the Powerball, they would immediately charter a limo to pick up the other party for the next morning, and have the same service for the return trip. The first duty for the other party was to notify the winner's manager that they would not be in, ever. That way the winner would not have to get up early to make that wonderful phone call.
Dave.
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Recent changes in Microsoft software is leaving me worried
From:
Office going to a subscription model , even though nothing really new has been added and Office 2007 still serves it purpose perfectly Bought it for $200 where I now have to spend that same amount every 15 months.
Windows 8 changing everything users were familiar with to windows 8.1 bringing back things cut from windows for no apparent reason.
Windows 8 prioritizing a tablet based layout making no consideration the amount of laptops and desktops is huge in comparison to tablet sales
Now in the past I made no secret of my absolute infuriation with Internet explorer and it looks like they are at it again
http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/18/technology/internet-explorer-name-microsoft/[^]
And all I can think of is "brilliant another default operating system bound browser which will be a compulsory baby sitting job filled with javascript and CSS layout issues that will be completely different from the fixes done in every major release of IE,and if they really want to make my day cause the same detection issues introduced with IE10 and IE11 making me spend my precious time jumping between different PC's and VMS testing different versions of IE and tweaking my CSS and Browser Files like a jenga tower instead of focusing on functionality and business logic" YAY!
I wish there is something we as developers can do to put a permanent stop to these unwanted and unnecessary security risks and changes Microsoft keeps shoving down our throat.
Chona1171
Web Developer (C#), Silverlight
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Chona1171 wrote: Office going to a subscription model , even though nothing really new has been added and Office 2007 still serves it purpose perfectly Bought it for $200 where I now have to spend that same amount every 15 months
Agree.
I remember when Windows 95 released and I was developing software and Gates was talking about this and I thought it was a terrible idea which only cost users more and really offered no great benefit.
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newton.saber wrote: Office 20073 still serves it purpose perfectly
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I hate the subscription model. No, I take that back, hate is too weak of a word. Mark my words I'll stop using Office personally if it's forced upon me and I'll likely convince my employer to do the same. Adobe has already lost my future money with their BS Creative Cloud nonsense. I'll use CS6 until it stops working.
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I completely agree , the subscription model is nothing but a huge pain and serves no benefit other than lining the pockets of execs with money for products end users already bought.
Usually new versions of software was written tested and so jam packed with new features to give end users incentive to upgrade, If the choose now once they start using a product the company does not need to do anything new and still gets paid. Money for nothing is a drain on everyone.
Chona1171
Web Developer (C#), Silverlight
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tgrt wrote: I'll use CS6 until it stops working.
I heard that! Unfortunately that time may arrive sooner than later. I have seen the world utterly transformed from the one I started my career in and I've got a persistent suspicion that not that long from now, no binary assembly will be able to execute on any retail computational device without first phoning home to a license server and passing/authenticating digital signatures and other verification gates.
This is not a brave new world that I want to live in!
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There is something you can do. If you don't like the produkt, then don't buy it. Or rent it. Or whatever.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.
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Chona1171 wrote: Office going to a subscription model
I still have Office 2010 around (or earlier) and I certainly will not continue past Office 2012 if I have to use a subscription model. OpenOffice is decent enough for my needs.
Chona1171 wrote: Windows 8 changing everything users were familiar with to windows
I will never use Windows 8 on any of my machines. If I am forced to for work reasons, it'll be on a dedicated box and f*** metro.
Chona1171 wrote: Now in the past I made no secret of my absolute infuriation with Internet explorer
I've got Chrome, Firefox, and Opera installed. What's Internet Explorer???
Chona1171 wrote: I wish there is something we as developers can do to put a permanent stop to these unwanted and unnecessary security risks and changes Microsoft keeps shoving down our throat.
You can. It's called Linux. And why not? Much as I actually think Linux desktops are POS's, they ARE still viable "work" platforms and the sooner "we as developers" stop developing for Microsoft, the sooner they will hear the silence.
Why, in fact, companies actually pay license fees for Windows and SQL Server (or Oracle) is actually beyond me at this point -- in other words, I'm sure there are good cases, but the vast majority of users have simply been sucked into the Microsoft Way. Not to mention developers, inhaling with glee whatever crap Wxx "technology" Microsoft throws at them next.
Maddening.
I await your rebuttals! 
Marc
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I agree with you that if more of us developed for Linux, eventually it would make a dent...problem is big corporate clients insist on being communicated with via Excel & Word docs...and a lot of them do all their scheduling and communicating with Outlook and presenting with PowerPoint...you'll be left out in the cold if you don't *obey*. Having said that, I'm staying on Office 2010 for the foreseeable future. If someone built .NET scripting into Open Office / Libre Office, that would seriously tempt me 
The Linux platform would help its cause immensely if it would settle on the *one* desktop combining all the best features of all of them. I only use Linux in console mode myself, usually to run LAMP stacks. Arch Linux is my current favorite, I've used CentOS and OpenSuSE as well (gave up on SuSE when they abandoned Mono).
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It's not whether more of us develop for Linux. It's if more people adopt and use Linux which people aren't going to do. It's a bit of a learning curve for many and I somehow think the day of Linux being number one is long gone. Companies won't move to Linux because they won't make money and if Microsoft gives away the OS for free, why would anyone try Linux in a mainstream level?
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Well, Android is a Linux ...add some printing, etc. and you're almost there.
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You'll get no quarrel from me. I've been exclusively Linux at home for 4 years; POS is not really the case, Microsoft generally imitates features Linux introduces, except for Brainfart 8. No, wait, Ubuntu Unity is supposed to be a unified device interface too, so that's another concept they imitated.
I keep a 7 machine in the kitchen for compatibility with work, but I generally only wheel it out once a month to allow all the updates to sh!t through the eye of a needle at once. It only takes half an hour. I can iron 3 shirts while I'm waiting, or record a rant for Vimeo. Tell the truth I only use it for torrents; I like to f"ck with potential beadles' heads.
My lovely Linux computers allow me to do every normal job for free. Libre Office is fine for all 'Office' type work I do, although it isn't absolutely in fidelity with MS Office; presumably the new 'features' are an arms race to keep the open source alternatives guessing. You can't really blame them for trying.
And of course, the Linux familiarity enabled me to increase my salary by 40% as my current employers use hybrids and virtualisation.
The future is bright.
The future is Orange.
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Simon O'Riordan from UK wrote: presumably the new 'features' are an arms race to keep the open source alternatives guessing.
Let's just hope they never implement ribbons. They haven't, have they?
Simon O'Riordan from UK wrote: And of course, the Linux familiarity enabled me to increase my salary by 40% as my current employers use hybrids and virtualisation.
Very nice!
Marc
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No ribbons. The features I was thinking of are file-types and Excel macros. Apparently the macros in Libre Office are slightly different.
LibreOffice is much, much better than Open Office; Open got taken over by one of the biggies(Adobe? Oracle?) who promptly alienated all their softies.
Those guys bailed and started Libre Office, so basically all the owners got was a pile of unmaintained code.
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Simple. Use another operating system or stick with what you have. There's nothing forcing you to upgrade.
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Actually, there is > Try and find a laptop with Windows 7, try and buy a copy of Office 2007 I believe you can still but 5 years from now I doubt it. not to mention the security patches that will inevitably not be delivered to a discontinued version of windows
My rant is not just from a End user perspective but that from a Developer perspective , there is nothing more i would like that to boot up ubuntu install netbeans and get in the zone with java but the most of my end users still uses Internet explorer (not because its the better browser, its because it came with their corporate PC along with Excel and word and all that other stuff that comes for free with open office but for some reason Microsoft still manage to sell to everyone
Chona1171
Web Developer (C#), Silverlight
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If you pay $10, you'll get 1TB of OneDrive which is the only reason why I signed on. 1TB per person and 5 licenses for $10/mo..... everyone's happy if 5 members of the family pay $2. Online backup storage and Office. Still beats paying $200+ for an Office suite when I can have this and get free upgrades.
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