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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: Thank you!
Now you have to do it twice tomorrow!!!
That's what she said...
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I agree - it works!
(And I didn't get it, until Peter emailed it to me )
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I think that's why I tend to prefer the composite clues - there's at least a small chance my brain will pick up on one part, and allow me to build on it.
Like the scrambled eggs (and "aural sex?") clues - you either get 'em or you don't!
The several pints of beer I had while waiting for my swordfish to be grilled probably has something to do with why I just got the pita straight away!
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Why are you interrogating sea life?
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Oh, it wasn't me! I was just taking him for a walk, when some over zealous officers of the law apprehended us as we approached. Accused Eric (what else would one call a pet swordfish?) of being armed in a public place!
I pointed out the stupidity - him not having any arms, being a fish, etc. - but, strangely they took little notice of my argument (beyond cudgelling me to the floor, anyway) and took Eric away to "ask him some questions".
Fortunately his incarceration wasn't too lengthy (long enough for me to have a beer or four, short enough that he didn't die of asphyxiation).
Apparently once he explained that he only used the sword for scraping his bottom ( or something, I was a little to "emotional" to understand properly) the nice policemen let him free, with some banter about crushed asians and so on.
BUt I understand your confusion - on re-reading it would almost seem as if I was waiting for a fish to be cooked !
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Well, thank goodness they didn't waterboard him!
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As our society progress towards technological advancement in ways to retain knowledge for next generation it is getting harder and harder to retain that knowledge in a form that can last few civilizations
In old days when our recorded history began early Sumerians started creating clay tablets which is still there in readable form after more than 5000 years
Then we got papyrus and papers and it can last few thousand years without decaying
In our generation we got floppy discs , memory drives, SSDs but the question is how long information stored in such form will last for next civilization
Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf *
Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.
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Sorry to break this to you, but there isn't any knowledge worth retaining nowadays.
Marc
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So you're saying Charlie Brown and the Peanuts gang is not worth retaining...sacrilegious!
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0
There's a fine line between crazy and free spirited and it's usually a prescription.
I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too but the possibilities are endless.
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Mike Hankey wrote: So you're saying Charlie Brown and the Peanuts gang is not worth retaining
OK, there are exceptions. But please, can we just throw Garfield into the great recycling center that bad comics go to?
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: Sorry to break this to you, but there isn't any knowledge worth retaining nowadays. Is that a re-tweet?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Is that a re-tweet?
Undoubtedly.
Marc
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I'm pretty sure Norton Anti-virus will still be about.
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P0mpey3 wrote: I'm pretty sure Norton Anti-virus will still be about a PITA.
FTFY!
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It might even have finished a full scan, by then.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mmm, I remember years ago the 'Dooms Day Book' (Wiki it if you haven't heard of) was copied and stored on a computer format. The problem is the genius that did it used an Acorn Archimedes which had the data in an obsolete file format, so they had to go back and redo the do once operation to be able to put it on line... I agree with Pomps Norton Antivirus will still be around!
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We have time caspules.
No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde
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Interesting enough, the next generation does not care very much about what I could record for them. With the ignorance and arrogance that have been the privilege of every generation, they know everything better and doom themselves to learning many lessons the hard way. If at all.
And if you just worry about the life cycle of physical storage media: The estimates usually are very conservative. I have a box of cassette tapes with the software of my first computer. The oldest programs are from 1978 and some of the tapes are even older and of the cheapest quality I could find. Still, the old computer can load the programs and I also have written a program to reconstruct the binaries from digital recordings of the tapes. With that little program even unloadable programs could be recovered.
What I did not know when I wrote the program, was that it had found its way into science: Paper on reviving old hardware.[^]. As far as I know, this was in preparation of the New horizons mission, which is going to reach Pluto next year. A lot of now more than a decade old hardware will have to be put out of storage and reactivated by then.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
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virang_21 wrote: but the question is how long information stored in such form will last for next civilization
Using the least advanced technology. Backward compatability.
Paper and digital files. The method used to save the digit files will change (floppy disk, cd, dvd, flash drive, hd, solid state drive, etc...) but they are still digital files.
and paper, as long as the paper is archival quality and stored in a safe place, it should be fine.
redundancy. having important knowledge, stored in more than one place, should ensure its safety for future generations.
to your question, "How long?". Well, if done correctly, then indefinitely.
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They weren't all that good at it back then either. Think of how much we actually still have from them (ignore clay tablets used for inventory management, that's not knowledge), and then think about how much there used to be in the library of Alexandria. And it didn't even have everything!
We could engrave a bunch of knowledge on steel plates encased in fused quartz or something like that, and dump them in deserts around the world. But a society obsessed with hedonism at the small scale and the economy at the large scale is incapable of taking actions that it doesn't benefit from.
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And remember that although Egyptian writing survived for thousands of years, we couldn't read it until 1822: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone[^]
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But a society obsessed with hedonism at the small scale and the economy at the large scale is incapable of taking actions that it doesn't benefit from.
Wonderfully put Harold.
(Still, if we last long enough, I am sure that there will be digital archaeologists around that know nothing about fingers.)
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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harold aptroot wrote: But a society obsessed with hedonism at the small scale and the economy at the large scale is incapable of taking actions that it doesn't benefit from. Is there any kind of probable human society capable of taking any action that it does not perceive it will benefit from?
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.
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Sure, I mean, it's not immediately self-evidently impossible, right?
Of course it can't spend too much resources on getting side-tracked..
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