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I thought he gave up, and then wrote 'A Farewell to ARMs"
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Yeah, ARMs are a RISCy business.
Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.
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His cousin preferred Rrrr...
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When they came for the ASM programmers,
I said nothing.
Who needs ASM if you have C?
When they came for the Cobol programmers,
I said nothing.
I can't even write in Cobol.
When they came for the VB6 programmers,
I said nothing.
VB6 is an ex-parrot for over 20 years.
When they come for me,
There will be no one who can say anything.
An empty office, except for ChatGPT.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I wrote a program that watches the files which are created, updated, deleted, etc on your disk (Read about it here on CP[^]).
Wow, that was gratuitous self-promotion and it didn't even feel like it.
Anyways, I had DiscoFiles running and I noticed that MS Edge directories were accessed.
MS Edge Secrets
I looked in this MS Edge directory and found its secrets...
You can get to it on your system (If you are running Edge) at:
%localappdata%\Microsoft\Edge\User Data\ZxcvbnData\3.0.0.0
I mean I'm assuming that last directory will be named ZxcvbnData on yours too??
Copy-Paste to your FileExplorer and it'll get you there.
You can see that there[^].
It's a list of files named:
english_wikipedia.txt
female_names.txt
male_names.txt
manifest.fingerprint
manifest.json
passwords.txt
surnames.txt
us_tv_and_film.txt
What!?!
Well, passwords is a lot of fun. Check it out. FYI - the passwords file is 30,000 lines long (30,000 common / bad passwords)
sunshine
iloveyou
f*ckme // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
ranger
hockey
computer
starwars
a**hole
pepper
klaster
112233
zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
freedom
princess
maggie
pass
ginger
11111111
131313
f*ck // my alteration to protect any kid sisters who are reading
love
cheese
159753
summer
chelsea
dallas
biteme
matrix
yankees
6969
corvette
austin
Edit Update
Here are the contents of the manifest.json file:
{
"description": "zxcvbn data component",
"name": "zxcvbnData",
"version": "3.0.0.0"
}
I think that pretty much explains it.
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Quote: zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !! Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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OriginalGriff wrote: Look at your keyboard ... Specifically the lowest row of letters ...
I am lame for not noticing. I'm a touch-typist too. Should'a known. <forehad slap>
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Actually, being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice.
I type moderately fast (60-80 wpm), but if you ask me where a given key is located, I have to think about it. I've been typing long enough that my fingers do what is necessary without conscious thought.
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BryanFazekas wrote: being a touch-typist means you're LESS likely to notice.
Yeah, I think you are right about that. I've been touch-typing for over 30 years (learned by playing WizType (Wizard of Id) on a Commodore 128). Amazing, you can actually play the game on Archive.org right in your browser.[^] I just tried it.
Anyways, you are right. I just type, I don't know where the keys are.
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But a regular PC user should recognize Undo, Cut, Copy and Paste.
Truth,
James
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Yep, kind of why I think lighted keyboards are pretty useless for me.
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I have this horrible feeling there's this whole dark and raging qwerty vs zxcvbn thing going on that I'm unaware of.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Waiting for some angry ANSI X4.22-1983[^] fan to point out that their bottom row reads zqjkxbmwv .
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Are there any left? I though that war was over ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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OpenVMS also has a list of words/names which aren't allowed to be passwords. While going through it many years ago I noticed a few LOTR references. I also noticed the absence of a particularly offensive word -- I suppose it's so offensive that they didn't want to risk having it anywhere on the system.
I may need to add the file you mention to my database of word lists.
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What do you think about the surnames.txt?
My surname is not in the list so I guess I'm safe.
Seriously, though, are last names used in some type of hack?
Well, i guess everything is, but didn't know surnames had some kind of special thing associated with them.
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I first learned of the list in VMS because a manager where I was working at the time (1990) wanted to set his password to "ORANGE".
At a later job, I extracted the four- and five-letter words, cleansed the result, and used them to form pairs to be used as passwords. A precedent had been set to make passwords such as HOUSE$BOAT, and I wanted to automate/randomize it.
As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive because not all terminals support lower-case.
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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.
PIEBALDconsult wrote: As a note to the newbs, passwords in OpenVMS (and other proper operating systems) are not case-sensitive
Did not know. I'm a newb.
PIEBALDconsult wrote: not all terminals support lower-case.
Sounds like an Apple ][
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I seem to recall using some Hazeltine terminals that didn’t have lowercase back in the early 80’s in college.
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The (mechanical) teletype terminals I used at school in the 70s only had upper case. The delete character was shifted O and it was a standing joke to say "Oh-shift ;I've mistyped!"
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raddevus wrote: zxcvbn // why are these letters so common?? !!
Because someone thought that, essentially, using qwerty+1 was being smart.
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I'm not very impressed with male_names.txt - it's not even close to complete.
OriginalGriff isn't even in there!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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But, your given name is in there, right?
Mine is.
Also, I was reading down through the list of passwords.txt and I started cracking up.
How are some of these "common"? People need their minds washed out!!
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Yep, over 3700 female names but less than 1000 male. My (middle-eastern, but pretty common) next-door neighbour's isn't in there, nor the leaders of two countries commonly in the news at the moment, nor the designer of the Eiffel tower, nor even a recent US president.
And as for surnames: neither part of my double-barrelled name is there, nor my wife's maiden name, nor my daughter-in-law's maiden name, nor that same ex-president. Someone at MS isn't trying very hard. But at least the film texts includes both aaaaaaaaah and that other classic, aaaaaaaaaa (and they spelt it correctly!)
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