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This isn't a new issue with the Windows Setup programs. Before I image any new machine I go to the manufacture's support site and download and extract the hard drive drivers.
Since you mentioned Dell, also download the current version of Dell Command Update and install it first. Then run the option to install all the Dell drivers. Do this before doing any Windows Updates.
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Quote: This isn't a new issue with the Windows Setup programs
As far as I am concerned it is new. I have done dozens of clean installs and only came across this issue with the very latest Windows 11 installer. All previous installers had default drivers that worked for me.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I've run into this with Windows XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10, and 11. The problem is Microsoft doesn't update the setup program but once in a blue moon while new hardware is released frequently.
Dell and Microsoft Surface both happen to be very easy to get the drivers ahead of time.
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obermd wrote: This isn't a new issue with the Windows Setup programs
Correct, it sounds an awful lot like the procedure I had to follow back in the NT4 days (!) to get some SCSI disk going.
I hadn't run across that sort of thing again until a few years ago, when a buddy of mine bought a laptop that came with an NVMe drive.
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Had this exact same issue when I clean installed Windows 10 (because my new laptop came with 11), that was a fun couple hours of my life
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This isn't new. It's been this way for years in Windows 10, Windows 7, Vista, XP. If you have an unrecognized AHCI/SATA/RAID controller, you need to load the "F6 driver" This term itself goes back at least twenty years. Dell has frequently over the years shipped computers with drive controllers that weren't recognized by the basic driver set included on the Windows installation media.
Also, Dell changed (many times) the default bios settings. Sometimes they come set to IDE (which will always work with default drivers). Other times, they have the controller set to AHCI or RAID mode (which will typically require a driver).
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This is interesting! My Dell XPS (where I ran into this problem) BIOS does not have an IDE option, only RAID or AHCI. If you select AHCI you better have a SATA drive attached, or the BIOS will freeze (hang). If you only have NVMe drives, you absolutely MUST select RAID or the machine will not start. From your comments I conclude that because RAID is compulsory for me, I have to provide the appropriate drivers for the installer.
Thanks for your input!
Edit: There's a new development. A couple of days ago, after the clean install, I upgraded the BIOS to the latest version. Now I notice that the drive config options have changed in the new BIOS: There is still no IDE option, but the options now are:
- RAID
- AHCI / NVMe
That NVMe addition is new. Maybe the installer drivers will work if I set the BIOS to that option? Pity I don't have to repeat the setup!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
modified 27-Apr-23 22:16pm.
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This level of difficulty and the complications of the solutions others have provided for Microsoft products are why Apple is the most successful company in the world. Mac sales are increasing because most people don’t need this extra hassle in their lives.
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Apple's ridiculous prices have always put me off!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Its like caviar and gold leaf on your ice cream, you are paying for the prestige and not the product.
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More accurate would be buying Häagen-Dazs instead of Great Value brand. They are both vanilla, but one tastes vastly better.
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That's what the people claim who are eating the gold leaf.
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As with most things in life, you get what you pay for.
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Continuing this weeks vein of easy clues.
Backward old style mark (10)
old style: Retro
mark: grade
Backward: Retrograde
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
modified 26-Apr-23 9:32am.
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Eh ?
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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As in Homer Simpson "I've-been-an-idiot".
I should have got that one.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I was very surprised you didn't
You used part of the clue in your infamous retromingent clue
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
modified 26-Apr-23 10:49am.
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... but some of the QA questions just make me want to hit something / someone.
No links, no names ... but he has code like this:
if(a>0)
{
MessageBox.Show("DATA SAVE SUCESSSFULLY");
}
And he wants me to add this for him, because he can't work it out:
else
{
MessageBox.Show("RECORD ALREADY EXISTS");
} I can't decide if he's unbelievably lazy, too dumb to walk and chew gum at the same time, or a troll ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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try suggesting
else if (a <= 0)
{
MessageBox.Show("RECORD ALREADY EXISSSTS");
}
"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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have you thought of him being a "lazy, dumb troll" ?
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The only reasonable pair for "DATA SAVE SUCESSSFULLY" is "RECORD ALREADY EXIST"
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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More obvious would be: "DATA SAVE UNSUCCESSFULLY"
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Welcome to QA - you must be new here.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I can't answer on there without violating CP profanity policy
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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