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IBM Mainframe, PDP 11, NCR, Assembler, Cobol, Fortran, Windows, C, C++, C#, VB, many more. You name it, been there done that...
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I do. I find it relaxing and satisfying. To be able to build things virtually before your eyes knowing first at the end that it works, and many times after that someone will use it and make their lives better is a great feeling.
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If you don't enjoy programming, try getting stuck in a retail job for a few years. It'll make even the most humble select statement a joy.
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Interesting question, phrased as is. Is it really the coding that people enjoy?
For me, I'm still interested in the problem solving aspect. Actual coding, which framework we use, blah, blah, blah, not so much.
It's fun to learn some of these newer tools and use them, but ultimately, the code is just a way to execute the problem solution. The design of which is the actually interesting part of this job.
Well, maybe not this job, more in a more general sense...
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agolddog wrote: Is it really the coding that people enjoy?
For me, yes. I like the problem solving but I love crafting something new where nothing existed before that solves that problem and does so in an elegant and efficient manner.
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I love writing the bleeding edge stuff. I wrote some code in 2008 that was still running, unmodified, in 2015. It was an awesome feeling... knowing that something I had written way back when was still running.
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I have been writing code since I was 13. Now 33 years later I still love to code.
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I would say that I still like to code, but I don't like it in the way that I used to.
For the longest time my favorite movie was WarGames (and it's still on my list). That movie emphasized how cool and mysterious computers were at the time. Computers couldn't really do much back then, but that's what made them so accessible and fun. To program a computer, you had to understand computers. You had to know what was going on with bits and bytes and graphics adapters and protocols and whatnot, but those were all little things that you could grasp and play around with. But it created an intimacy between man and machine. Even high-level languages like BASIC felt rudimentary enough to represent the binary structure of a computer.
These days everything is abstracted. Every abstraction is abstracted. These days you can go your entire career, for example, knowing nothing more than Javascript, CSS and HTML. Sure, there's lots more to learn, but you generally don't need to learn it unless you're the main developer on a large project. These days computers are complex, networks are complex. No one can possibly know more than a fraction of it. These days there isn't enough time to play around with everything to really understand it because there's so much to understand. I miss the simplicity of older times.
It's like college. I loved college. It was so different from high school. I had more freedom. I discovered that there was so much more to this world than I had realized. College was very exciting...when I was 18. I've gone back to college a few times to take a course here and there. The magic isn't there anymore because I am a different person. It's disappointing, but it's okay because as a different person I understand more and I am a better student.
So now I am a career developer. Now I face the challenge of professional growth. It isn't enough to track down a bug; I need to make my code as bug-free as possible with every single release. It isn't enough to deliver on a project; I need to make code as efficient and manageable as possible with every line I write. So I miss the simplicity and mystery of what computers used to be. But as computers have grown, so have I, and the challenges continue to present themselves. I definitely still enjoy that.
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I want to get into VR (virtual reality) programming (Oculus Rift) and robotics (Lego MindStorm); also eye tracking.
(To cater to the "older" generation).
Need a (way) bigger desktop before being able to do the VR though.
"(I) am amazed to see myself here rather than there ... now rather than then".
― Blaise Pascal
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Yes, coding has always been fun and a challenge. I am 74 years old, write c#, C++, C, VB.net, Assembler, Java and while not too often anymore can still dabble in cobol, rpg, snobol, python and other classic languages. I have been called the oldest coder in the world, but just for laughs! As it keeps my mind active and my skills sharp I will keep coding as long as I can reach the keyboard and see the screen.
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I have found myself conflicted recently with this very question. My current role deals more with strategy and architecture and less hands-on code. When I took the job, I felt like I was sick of coding. Now I'm missing it a bit and wanting to go back.
I feel now that this is likely due to the bureaucracy present in my environment and the fact that I can design an architecture but getting it going is difficult and slow. These frustrations make me long for simply sitting down at a computer and typing code. I feel code gives you immediate feedback and that endorphin rush of getting something to work. Working at a higher level is more abstract and at times difficult to feel that you actually accomplished something.
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Yes, I still love it. Coding tasks are like the kata of a very internal martial art; one that allows me to break bricks, drive, fly, build, and destroy using the distilled power of my mind. Seriously, d'you think I'd want to give that up?
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I love to code... but my biggest issue now is that I have a severe stress related anxiety issue which leads to depression. If there is no pressure on me, I can code like crazy... but the slightest amount of pressure, leads to stress which triggers my anxiety issues.
And from what I can understand from my psychologist, high order anxiety leads to a flight or fight situation and your brain starts shutting down in preparation for either flight or fight... and as a result, I can concentrate or at times even think logically and I just stop working.
It's a pain in the arse... because I still love to code.
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Love to code! I've managed (and tried at all costs) to avoid the "management" track of any sort, preferring to carve out a technical lead type of position that requires more, rather than les, code from me. And yeah, now approaching my 32nd anniversary in the profession.
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Getting on a plane tomorrow morning - Friday the 13th, there's a full moon tonight and a nationwide weather warning.
I'd have a few beers in the morning, but I might end up driving at the other end!
Ah, I see you have the machine that goes ping. This is my favorite. You see we lease it back from the company we sold it to and that way it comes under the monthly current budget and not the capital account.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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The best thing you can say about any flight you can walk off is that it was boring. Nothing happened.
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Well it's been nice knowing you.
Jeremy Falcon
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Shut up and take my money.
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When you decided to buy a yacht, was it aboat time?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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And, for those that get confused about what Canadians say...
When you decided to get Western foot ware, was it aboot time?
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Yet another TotD sailing along the Lounge; ugh, can't we put these at bay and/or will they ever converge into the perfect storm to be lost at sea?
(If either really happened, the Lounge would be sunk!)
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Dinghy puns! We can't get 'nuff of 'em!
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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Canoe not? I'll have to kayak gain...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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