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That might lead you to "meta analysis paralysis" where you get stuck analyzing the analysis paralysis. From there you can move to higher and higher degrees until you reach the pure nirvana of just "laziness". You'll find me there waiting for you 
Mircea
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Please tell me that it's not more than four, and that Dij's new nest discovery is now empty? 'Cause them were BIG chicks and he's bringing me the corpses in pairs ... 
There are times when it's really good to have a cat around, and then there are other times.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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My four chickens used to lay one egg a day like clockwork.
Then it was 3 some days. One or more of them was slacking.
Now we're lucky to get an egg at all. The chooks are getting old.
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honey the codewitch wrote: They chooks are getting old.
Time for chicken soup? 
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Depending upon what birds they are, can even be 6 or more.
Sorry 
Happiness will never come to those who fail to appreciate what they already have. -Anon
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music. -Frederick Nietzsche
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Bugger.
These chicks had no feathers and they were all around 12cm long (ignoring the legs) so I'm guessing quite big birdies were involved. The only colour I could see was red and that came from the inside, so that doesn't count or aid identification ...
Dij isn't talking so I'm getting nothing there either.
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Having seen the size of the eggs, I would hope for the bird's sake no more than one at a time! 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Nature taking it's course I guess.
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Yes, I agree, I missed my cat when he died but I've never missed what he used to bring home. I'd never have another one.
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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The neighbor's cat keeps me entertained.
Whenever he walks by the tree in my yard, the bluejays fly down from their nest to greet him with a few good solid pecks on the head. He wanders around for a while wondering how he became the prey instead of the hunter.
Some day he'll learn that even pretty birds can protect their young.
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr.PhD P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Update: https://cse.usf.edu/~kchriste/tools/udpClientNonblock.c[^] Pretty much what I needed. Yay.
Update 2: Much ado about nothing. Easier than I thought. Docs are just terrible.
Anyone remember the sockets layer from C and C++?
Seriously, the fact that someone actually designed them the way that they did, and it made its way through a standards committee just floors me. The blocking stuff is fine, but the non blocking stuff is incomprehensible, at least last time I looked at it.
It's absolutely the worst asynchronous API I've ever encountered.
I'm about ready to use them in blocking mode on a spawned thread just to avoid it, but the MCU doesn't have a lot of resources and threads are relatively expensive. 
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I'd be curious to hear more specifically what is wrong about the asynchronous socket API. What is the incomprehensible part.
Communication is, in its very nature, asynchronous. So an asynchronous socket API should be the natural way to do it. Synchronous communication is a straitjacket; you can't work or think freely if you have to force yourself into a synchronous framework for communication.
Religious freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make five.
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IBM Documentation[^]
It's anything but natural.
Adding, I took a liberty here. I'm using non-blocking and asynchronous interchangeably, but they may not always be in every context.
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And here I am, complaining about non-well-formed CSV files... 
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Those are the bane of every programmer.
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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My simple rule: I only read CSVs I wrote.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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honey the codewitch wrote: use them in blocking mode on a spawned thread
Works for us. We use blocking sockets for both hardware and inter-process communication. It separates threading concerns from communication concerns.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Separating I/O threads from application threads is an excellent strategy. The I/O threads just do recvfrom/recv and queue messages as work for the application threads. When no message is waiting for an I/O thread, it's easiest to just let it block (with a timeout if it also has other things to do, like freeing TCP sockets that applications released after the I/O thread last blocked).
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