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k5054 wrote: Back in the day, HP knew how to build stuff that lasted,
They certainly did: not long ago I had to part ways with my LaserJet 6MP after almost 30 years of faithful service.
Along the way I started to use Canon MF printers (last one is also colour) and they aren't too bad either. However the previous Canon I had to let go because there were no scanner drivers for anything newer then Windows XP  .
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My father had the same problem, that's why I installed the scanner in a VM, the printer did worked in the Win 7
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Yes, I did the same thing for a couple of years but it was cumbersome to start computer, start VM, copy scanned document from VM to network.... In the end I found a newer Canon in rebate and replaced the old one.
The old printer was still working great over the network and I tried to give it for free but everyone who seemed interested was asking if it has Wifi. No one seemed to want a printer with only a LAN interface. In the end I had to dump it at a recycle centre... kids these days! 
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: Yes, I did the same thing for a couple of years but it was cumbersome to start computer, start VM, copy scanned document from VM to network.... In the end I found a newer Canon in rebate and replaced the old one.
Of course... it is not practical, but my father scans maybe once a year and I configured the output folder of the scanner already as a shared, so no need to copy from A to B.
But yes. I wouldn't do that myself. I do scan almost every important document. Keeping the paper and the electronic copies of it
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Nelek wrote: Keeping the paper and the electronic copies of it
Reminds me of an old joke:
Employee: Can we destroy these old documents?
Boss: Sure, but first make a copy!
Me, I'm aiming for a paperless house. Didn't happen yet but I'm on the right path.
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I live in a country where the agencies still use fax. 
Just want to be sure I can make them understand me in case of need.
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Have you been talking to my office manager and accountant?
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I abandoned scanners as well - my phone has a "document mode" which does a good job of correcting parallax. Wouldn't be suitable for bulk work, but I scan individual documents only these days - like when some strange individual sends me a paper cheque and I have to pay it in ... fortunately, my bank is more up to date than them! 
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HP wasn't keen to update the drivers, too. Fortunately their low-end was language compatible with some higher tiers, so we printed on a LJ1010 on W7 64 bit with first paper in 40 secs, 5 secs pause between pages
MS kicked them when they denied drivers for W10, making themselves a few, then HP cached up - 2 years after W10 launch.
Looks like the Samsung merger injected HP with some long needed customer service viewpoint.
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k5054 wrote: Back in the day, HP knew how to build stuff that lasted, and didn't annoy the customers.
I have a LaserJet 4350 or some-such model, big office printer with all the accessories, that nobody wanted when the last place I worked at shut down. I don't use it much, but it is still working great, and it's got to be at least 20 years old by now (my previous employer had it for a few years, and the place shut down in 2007).
(That's not the problematic printer, obviously)
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Yep - mine is a Xerox VersaLink C400 office beast. I suspect the previous owners replaced it because they looked at the price of genuine toner cartridges and went  - £528! We'll dump it and buy a new one for that!
I got aftermarkets for £40 the set.
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I've got a Brother black and white laser and it's brilliant - I suffered inkjet woes for a few years and eventually thought, do I really need a colour printer ? no, I've had the brother ~ 10 years or so and it's only on its second toner cartridge. Wouldn't mind a colour printer though.
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pkfox wrote: Wouldn't mind a colour printer though.
I've had a Brother color printer for 7-8 years, on the second set of cartridges, and we print a fair amount. It just works. ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.freetls.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) inkjets.
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Believe me, I have a laser. Two, in fact.
The problem with lasers is that they don't print on discs (it's a long story, don't ask). And I'm not gonna on print on CD labels.
But at least with the lasers, I never have toner problem, even if I might only print a page once every 3 months (and yes, that is representative of my use).
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Discs? How the heck did you interface the player?[^] 
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OriginalGriff wrote: Throw it in the [mastadon] ing recycle bin, and get a laser.
ABSOLUTELY!!!
I figure I use up half the ink in cartridges cleaning the heads. Last time I needed to replace cartridges, I bit the bullet and purchased a Brother color multi-function laser that duplexes. It's given me ZERO problems.
It cost me more than I wanted to pay, but the lack of frustration and irritation is worth it.
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BryanFazekas wrote: It cost me more than I wanted to pay, but the lack of frustration and irritation is worth it.
Not only that, but you don't waste huge amounts of time trying to get it printing: turn on, print, turn off. I don't know what you time is worth, but it adds up quickly while swearing at inkjets and can easily make the laser more cost effective. even in the short term.
Not to mention lasers generally have higher PPM than inkjets so you aren't standing there twiddling your thumbs while it gets ready to paper jam itself ... 
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Have you tried turning it off and on again?
What coat? It's summer.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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Like OG I'm on my second Laser printer.
I's a color printer and am still on my original cartridges, haven't priced new ones yet.
You say print, it prints. No muss no fuss!
If you can't find time to do it right the first time, how are you going to find time to do it again?
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What printer have you got Mike ? I'm sorta thinking of getting a colour laser
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My color laser is an HP LaserJet Pro CP1025nw. Got it for $100 at Staples in 2012 (!) and I still haven't replaced the "starter" cartridges. I did buy a new replacement set (ready to go) a good while back, but until these stop working, they remain in the sealed packaging.
I very much want to completely ditch inkjet. But, lasers don't print on printable discs. And I'm not gonna print on CD labels (I have in the past, never more).
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I'd recommend a color laser printer, unless you're printing photographs. Most of the lasers I've seen can't do natural color as well as inkjet.
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I'd still put up with the less-than-perfect colors. I do have a color laser printer (see some of my responses above). The only reason I still have an ink-jet (and have one on the way) is that I have a need to print on discs (the CD and DVD kind). I'd otherwise be ecstatic if I never had to deal with an inkjet printer ever again.
Printing on labels is not an option - I did before; never again.
According to my research, I'm not the only one who wished lasers could be used on discs. But, everyone concludes that even if it were possible, they run so hot they'd warp the discs. And given how hot sheets of paper get sometimes when coming out of my printer, I tend to believe that...
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