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That is certainly no different from word based languages!
I frequently encounter word symbols completely unknown to me. Often, I have no clue how the term is pronounced (read out loud English is tough stuff[^] if you don't get my point!).
In the academic, English-speaking society, you are expected to master a huge vocabulary of several ten thousands of words - or, if you like: word symbols. If you master several ten thousands of ideogram symbols, you will probably be able to get far in your professional field, regardless of culture.
I can easily imagine Chinese propagandists ridiculing Westeners for not knowing the meaning and/or pronounciation of some professional term. You have to learn the terminology to read it. There is no principal difference between character/word based terminology or ideogram based terminology.
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Oh so you have met my daughters boyfriend!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Have you been on the Internet lately, especially any of the social media sites?
Software Zen: delete this;
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So ... a Spice girls song then?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I love you, you love me,
Now we have a melody
Mircea
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In my youth, popular music was ridiculed for these primitivistic 'love, love, love' repetitions.
Maybe Norwegian culture was early in pointing out that endless repetitions of 'Glory, glory, glory' or 'Holy, holy, holy' (and several other mantras) were fully recognized in numerous musical works touted as Elevated Cultural Expressions.
I seriously suspect that in essential parts of Western Culture, even today it would be inappropriate to draw parallels between 'love, love, love' and 'Glory, glory, glory'.
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aren't you already there?
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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y'know, I know how you feel.
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Much as is listening to people who cannot construct a sentence without adding 'like' every third word.
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Chris Maunder wrote: It's driving me insane. Count 'em. After the meeting/presentation, hand them your count and leave.
I found that it works better than interrupting them and pointing it out
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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At Microsoft in the old times whenever they had a meeting with Bill Gates, they assigned one person to be the f*** counter.
The less f***s the better the presentation went.
My First BillG Review – Joel on Software[^]
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Those are filler words; when I took English classes in school I used a lot of them.
It is not something conscious and it may annoy the f*ck out of of your audience, like y'know. It may hurt their cause.
..true story; learned what filler is as a kid in school, interrupted anyone explaining so. It's better to just count and give a note after the session. Shows you been distracted, without being too rude. It's still rude, but less.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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"Y'know what I'm sayin'?" At the end of the majority of someone's sentences wears on my patience.
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I can't stand webinars as such.
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Y'know, uhm... like, there are a few good ones out there, I hear. Y'know what I'm sayin'?
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Uhhhhmmmmmmmm.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Having been a professor at one time (long, long ago), I remember doing a teacher training course where part of the emphasis was on being able to speak on a subject without saying "um" or "er" at all. For some on the course it was very difficult to get out of the habit. Today, there are many people who cannot get through a single sentence without using the "f" word or other things as emphasis or filler, Y'know?
My sympathy with your having to listen to something you actually wanted to learn about but being distracted by sloppy presentation. Education generally is poorer these days, not because of subject matter, but because of the quality of basic teaching skill is so low.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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� Forogar � wrote: Education generally is poorer these days
So, why did you stop being a prof then?
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1. A real job paid much better!
2. At that time (early 80's) the nationally prescribed syllabus surprisingly didn't change much so it got boring teaching the same stuff year after year.
Reason #1 is the main one.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Sounds like a generic reason to why our education is supposedly worse nowadays.
So, how come tuition is so much more expensive today?
It is isn't it?
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Like, that, it's like a real bummer.
(current use of "like's" makes me nostalgic for the old ways)
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Some old masters, which may have a lot of valuable historical information to contribute, could improve their presentation tremendously simply by dropping every single 'I remember when ...'
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Wasn't there a term to describe this style of speaking only in these empty buzz terms, y'know was only one of them. I think others were 'like', 'say', 'think of'...
Hey, think of, like you know, say something like, what do you think, really?
Years ago, I had links to sound files of people who could go on that way for several minutes without interruption. But I have lost the links (they would probably be invalid today), and I have forgotten the term used to refer to that specific kind of gibberish.
Could anyone help me to the right Google search term? It is certainly not that I 'need' it for anything, it is just for the fun of it. Nevertheless I would like to have a few links to some great samples of this vocabulatory art. I think of it that way - sort of today's follow-up to scat singing.
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Chris Maunder wrote: I'm listening to a webinar where every third word is 'y'know'.
It's driving me insane.
I had been listening to a podcast for years before I actually started noticing one of the presenters was constantly doing this. Then it's all I could hear. A few times I challenged myself to repeat it every time he would say it, in a mocking fashion. Good thing there was nobody around.
I had to stop listening to it. It is, absolutely, positively, the one reason. Which I thought was too bad, because I otherwise thought it was a pretty informative podcast.
[Edit]
I just visited the site and clicked Play on the latest episode, and moved forward to a random spot. I let it play for less than a minute, and the guy is still up to his old habits - I counted "y'know" 4 times within that minute.
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About a year ago, MSN.COM suspended (again) all comments ... I assume to stem all debates about covid-19 measures, dumb (Canadian) political moves, etc.
Just noticed, we are now being invited to "join the conversation" again.
Must be a sign that things are looking up in general ... or some things need to be livened up.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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