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Merry Christmas. Count your blessings. You did your homework.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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ZIF stands for zero insertion force . In the "good old days", pushing chips into sockets required a few tens of grams of force per pin. For 14, 16, up to 64 pins in dual-inline format, not a real issue. Now you have monsters around 1000 pins, so the insertion force would be getting up to human body weight. So they use ZIF sockets, where the lever closes a pair of contact leaves against each pin via cams.
FWIW the first time I met ZIF sockets was in PROM programmers. Too long ago to think about.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Yeah, I'm aware. The issue is the lever requires serious force - at least on an LGA1700 socket in order to reseat it with the cpu in place. Like I said, I thought I was going to break something. It felt like forcing it.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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What cooler did you end up getting ?
I'm using a be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 for my i5-13600; temperature are OK while gaming (cool ambient temperature)
I'll probably add some extra exhaust fans in the future when ambient temperature get higher.
It barely fits in the case (1 inch clearance to the side glass pane).
I've not tuned anything yet.
I've also busted my budget (bricked a motherboard).
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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I've got a Noctua NH-DL12. They have compatibility lists at Noctua for chassis and CPUs and I did my homework so I think I'll be okay. It's on air, because liquid in this chassis creates airflow issues, the chassis is semi-open air, and I have cat hair to concern myself with.
My cooler has about an inch above it before it hits the fans. Otherwise I have plenty of room in this Thermaltake Level 20 VT chassis.
How did you brick your board?
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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It was a Gigabyte AERO G z690 board; I f*cked up while upgrading the BIOS to support the 13600.
Now, for some reasons, I cannot even do anything with it; the qflash does not work to try to flash it back to default.
I'm keeping it for now, maybe I'll be able to make it work.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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I hear that. I like Gigabyte as they make some good high end boards, but they have too many issues with their bleeding edge boards. It seems like they'd rather be first to market even if they have bugs. Other than that their boards are pretty solid. Build quality and component quality are great. I hope you get yours working.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I got an Aorus z790 board instead.
A small costly error.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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I tend to go with ASUS if I don't know anything else about what I'm buying. I'll get an MSI board or even Gigabyte if they have one that's exactly what I need, but if I don't know exactly what I need, or I don't have time to do a lot of legwork, I think ASUS is the most reliable choice.
Their boards are consistently solid, with rare exceptions. Their firmware usually demands updating, but their documentation is good, their boards are good build quality, and between reasonable and great in terms of performance and features. They're also a decent price, and they've been consistent in terms of what they offer over the years.
To me that makes them my go to brand for motherboards.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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As long as the heat pipes are not in the way, you could always trim it a little bit with a small angle grinder or a dremel type cutting tool as long as you just need to remove mass that is not heat pipe or contact surface.
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The heat pipes protrude slightly out the top and come to a tip, so no dice. I did check fitment yesterday because anxiety was killing me, so I did a dry run with the cooler on my new board (with a small piece of paper between the cpu and the cooler because i didn't want metal on metal and I'm not ready for thermal paste yet, until wednesday when all my parts arrive and I can finally assemble. I've got an inch to spare until the fans, so I'm golden. Hooray!
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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My husband is furious with me because he found a bunch of hidden letters that revealed I was cheating on him.
Now he refuses to play Scrabble at all.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Switch to Dominos, it's safer.
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good one.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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one game of poker where you use clothes for money and he will have forgotten all about it
We are men after all...
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I'll take your word for it
GCS/GE d--(d) s-/+ a C+++ U+++ P-- L+@ E-- W+++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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You obviously didn't get the joke.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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That's cuz I'm twelve.
Remain Calm & Continue To Google
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Maybe you've never heard of scrabble.
It's a game where you and your opponent form words on a board out of wooden tiles with letters on them, and try to get the most points.
Those were the hidden letters in the joke.
By cheating, the joke was I was cheating at scrabble by hiding those tiles.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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He should know better than to expect you to keep your word to the letter of the law.
(rim-shot)
Software Zen: delete this;
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Non-crew mission, but run to certify human rating of vehicle. Next Artemis will have crew to moon. Yes.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
modified 12-Dec-22 14:22pm.
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Yet very little of this capsule will be reused and none of the rocket used to send it around the Moon will be reused. This is seriously backwards thinking.
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This is the first sign of a meaningful manned space program in almost exactly 50 years[^] and you're bitching about that?
Software Zen: delete this;
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As a taxpayer, I'm all for human space flight. I just don't want it to be so expensive that Congress cuts it out of the budget again. Each Artemis launch runs $2 to $4 Billion, which is enough to get Congress to look at it first (as opposed to all the other crap they should be cutting) when it comes to budget cuts. Reusability would reduce this cost.
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