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So don't hire testers who can't create automated tests.
It's a major part of the job, so why on Earth hire people who can't do it?
You might as well hire devs who don't know any programming languages (e.g. straight from university).
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Mark_Wallace wrote: So don't hire testers who can't create automated tests.
That's just not practical, the majority of testers can't.
Let me guess though...all the testers you know are also coders 
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F-ES Sitecore wrote: Let me guess though...all the testers you know are also coders
Some, but by no means all. they're just people who are good at their job -- you know, the kind of people that you give jobs to.
If you're working with testers (and maybe planners, from the looks of it) who can't do the job, either get 'em trained up or get 'em transferred to jobs they can do.
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Again you're talking about best-case scenarios. Obviously if you can hire nothing but the top talent then you have less problems...who doesn't want to do that? I'm talking about the real world though, which is why a lot of the "advice" given on agile isn't much use, as it ignores how things really are.
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I didn't say "top talent". If you don't hire people who are competent to do the job they are hired to do, you've got no right to complain when they don't do it.
I don't see having competent staff as a "best-case scenario"; I see it as "business as usual".
And I'm somewhat dumbfounded that you can think otherwise.
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I'd say testers that can do automated tests are "top talent", yes, as the vast majority can't. Again I'm talking about the real world here.
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That ain't no real world you're living in. You must have done some really bad things, when you were alive.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: That ain't no real world you're living in
Where not every employee has a huge range of skills? Ok boomer.
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Swift on more platforms – provided you do not need a GUI "And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate"
Dang, but their headline writer is so good. I'm jealous.
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Dang, but their headline writer is so good. I'm jealous.
Not so hot on accuracy in tech initialisms, though -- it's IDE, not GUI.
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While I assume it's the case that the tool stack doesn't support anything more advanced in the way of an IDE than a texteditor syntax highlight plugin; the article itself is talking about the lack of a GUI library; because SwiftUI is a thin wrapper on top of native Apple controls; and doesn't have any sane porting path to Windows. (Just like there's no sane native way to do WinForms/WPF with .net on *NIX.)
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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According to the scientists, if these waves were harnessed, the concentrated power could potentially serve as an alternate energy source. Is it getting hot in here, or are you charging your phone?
Weren't there "T-rays" in Flash Gordon or Quatermass or something?
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So all you need is to tape a 5lb block of graphene to your phone and add fifty quid's worth of electrics, and you're good to go!
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Visual Studio 2019 version 16.6 Preview 2 comes with several new, exciting capabilities for you to try today. I see their naming game is still on point
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Let me guess download is 50 GB in size...
Caveat Emptor.
"Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long
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abmv wrote: Let me guess download is 50 GB in size...
That would be light...
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
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And that's just the delta since Preview 1
TTFN - Kent
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Today, Microsoft announced the new Microsoft Editor, an intelligent AI-powered writing assistant that is designed for all of us to become better writers. "This is the kind of arrant pedantry up with which I will not put."
Time to sell that Grammarly stock
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Time to sell that Grammarly stock
Or to buy Stock of those indian essay writers... I suppose they are going to receive a lot of requests even if they stop spaming
M.D.V.
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On a related note - I've been enjoying the lack of telephone solicitors for the last week or so.
TTFN - Kent
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Quote: Today, Microsoft announced the new Microsoft Editor the "release/existence/whatever of" the editor was announced, an intelligent missing comma AI-powered writing assistant missing comma that is designed for all of inappropriate phrasing us to become better writers. Whether "whether" can only be used with two options you are a student, professional writer, or just writing some needless word casual chats to your friends, Microsoft says the new service will help you write better papers, craft more thoughtful emails missing comma or incorrect conjunction: use "and" help with your professional posts on sites like LinkedIn.
At launch, the Microsoft Editor will be available in 20 languages and anyone who uses a Microsoft sign-in "the Microsoft Editor will be available in [...] anyone who uses a Microsoft sign-in" does not make sense. Recast.
I can't wait.
Let's just repeat one bit of that:Quote: Microsoft says the new service will help you write better
Is it any surprise to anyone that microsoft is completely wrong, yet again?
Wanna take a guess at what makes people better writers?
(tip: it ain't a stupid software package that makes inappropriate suggestions for changes to what you type.)
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Wanna take a guess at what makes people better writers?
read more?
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Nelek wrote: read more?
Nope. Reading a lot has a miniscule effect on people's writing skills -- usually in the wrong direction, making them worse at it, with inappropriate phrases flying around all over the place, and weird segues.
Analysing what you read helps a bit, but it's still not the best learning tool.
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Time to sell that Grammarly stock
Just what I was thinking. Sad. Once upon a time, Microsoft would just have bought them!
I wonder if Grammarly will/could have a future selling wholesale services, i.e. to providers who would like to provide a 'better writing' service as a value add within their product. There is still room to compete with Microsoft and Google, I think.
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