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hi there,
i am doing a application to demonstrate communication could be possible without encryption.. i refered to many articles and it is said it is possible by means of qkd.. can any1 suggest me a good algorithm for that.. it has to b easy to implement also. cos have to complete it b4 feb 2nd week.
helps of any form are welcome...
Thank u,
Freak8802
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I'm not sure what you're trying to ask. Almost all communication is done unencrypted. If by QKD you're referring to using Quantum Key Distribution to have unbreakable encryption, I hope you have a 6 figure budget because the hardware needed to do it is anything but cheap. I also suspect there's a rather long lead time on the manufacturing of the QKD boxes. Alternatively with a research grade photonics lab you could try and make your own, but I don't think that'd be viable in only 2.5 months.
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i shud have put myself clear then.. i have no idea in this regard.. i just no they have to be done with quantum encryption not any mathematical encryption.. can u guide if u have any src in this regard..
help of any kind are welcome..
Thank u,
Freak8802
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QKD isn't encryption in and of itself. What it is, is a way to create and exchange one time pad keys (random numbers each used to encrypt a single byte and never used again). Due to the low bandwidth of current systems the OTPs are not used directly to encrypt the data but are instead used to exchange really long keys for symmetric encryption keys that are used over normal highspeed communication channels. The QKD hardware is used to provide new keys frequently enough that each symetric key isn't used for long enough to allow for pattern analysis to break it.
The QKD is done using expensive hardware ($100k and up last time I looked), and IS NOT something that can be implemented in software alone.
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dan neely wrote: The QKD is done using expensive hardware ($100k and up last time I looked)
I think that is on the low side, too. Just for starters.
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Do you have access to lasers and stuff like that ? What about photon polarity and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle ? what about Bob and Alice ?
From what I understand, it's a lot more than just source code; and probably what is available right now must be under lock and key in the hands of a few companies and research departments around the world.
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Ordinary lasers won't due. You need ones that are capable of emitting a single photon at a controlled polarization. The actual algorithm used isn't complex and could be simulated easily enough but would not be secure since the inability to be eavesdropped on is fundamental to the quantum nature of the data transfer.
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Agreed and those kind of lasers are probably not sold at Circuit City.
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Maximilien wrote: those kind of lasers are probably not sold at Circuit City
Probably not at Fry's Electronics, either :->
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Maximilien wrote: Heisenberg uncertainty principle ?
Alright, I've got to google that.
Maximilien wrote: what about Bob and Alice ?
Just hope they are on good terms with each other. Now, nobody point lasers at anybody's eyes 
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Well technically thats still encryption then.
Lloyd J. Atkinson
"Logic will get you from A to B, but imagination will take you everywhere" -ALbert Einstein
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dan neely wrote: I hope you have a 6 figure budget because the hardware needed to do it is anything but cheap.
No kidding. 
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i think it can be done virtually in a computer.. i googled my doubts and i got good results.. it is said that it can be done virtually without the use of photons.. we need to encrypt the messages with different qubits.. which is defined by the representation of the bits which need to be sent.. all we have to do is to make an hidden channel.. but i got no clue how to do that????
can any1 who understood the above concept explain me???
Help of any kind r welcome....
Thank u,
Freak8802
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You need a computer that stores information as qubits, not mere bits, otherwise it's not quantum at all. AND, there are only two implementations, and they both use photons - one uses polarization, the other entanglement. It's not just a software thing - not just any computer can do it.
You obviously have no idea about this, and quantum computing isn't for the faint-hearted, or the clueless. And anyway, QKD is tied-in with encryption, so basically it's not what you're looking for at all.
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FREAK8802 wrote: i am doing a application to demonstrate communication could be possible without encryption
Well, you've just communicated something without encryption. What else you want to demonstrate ?
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Be aware, maybe a misterious message is encrypted whitin.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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CPallini wrote: maybe a misterious message is encrypted whitin
And I wonder what that could be
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hello All,
Do anybosy have some idea of Rinjdael algorithm
neema jain
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It's a well kept secret but if you promise not to tell anyone I'll let you in on it: look here[^]
Peter
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i posted on code in my blog long back about that...
visit there if u wants...
http://myarafath.blogspot.com
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nimsrav wrote: have some idea of Rinjdael algorithm
Yeah, I use it all the time 
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can some 1 help me in putting a check on ips ...
i need code
i mean ip filtering
to move ips in a horzontal n vertical ports
regards!
suhail
tak care
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rebelpir wrote: help me in putting a check on ips ...
Are you trying to track a package sent via IPS? Isn't that the fictitious company that Doug Heffernan works for?
rebelpir wrote: i need code
i mean ip filtering
to move ips in a horzontal n vertical ports
Please clarify.
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"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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