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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: If you're going to swap out motherboards, then yes, you will have to re-install Windows.
My experience with nVidia mobos was that I could always get away without reinstalling windows because the mobo drivers while not perfectly universal were close enough that I could always boot normally to install the new versions.
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You have to explain to them [VB coders] what you mean by "typed". their first response is likely to be something like, "Of course my code is typed. Do you think i magically project it onto the screen with the power of my mind?" --- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Once bitten, twice shy - I tried that once and it didn't work out well at all. So not I back up my system drive before swapping motherboards, reinstall Windows after installing the new motherboard, and then restore certain files back to their rightful place.
I've only seen Linux handle that gracefully (without a reinstall of the OS).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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DavidCrow wrote: Is this possible
Absolutely, providing the motherboard supports the new processor correctly.
DavidCrow wrote: would it require a format of the HD?
As long as nothing else changed, this "should" not be necessary. It is always prudent to back up before a major change of any hardware.
With my home computer, which was one of the first dual cores and getting old now, the chip was late so they gave me a single core with the new board and promised me full credit on the X2 when they got it. When the dual core was available, we dropped it in, booted and it of course ignored the core, updated the bios and then it was fine and dandy, no OS change, no reformat. 
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Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau.
Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Hi,
I'm forced to buy a new workstation for our VS 2005 database application developments. The old one, a simple DELL with a 2.5 GHz single core processor, is too slowly. To which features I've to pay attention to get the fastest possible development / compiling / testing environment? Does a Dual Core processor make sense? What about a 64-Bit operating system? How much RAM is recommendable? (We don't work with multimedia-stuff: no video, no music, no 3D rendering and so on, just rather complex database and enterprise application developments).
Is there anybody who could give me some pieces of advice? Thanks in advance!
Wolfgang
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You may be able to find a pre-built system like I described below, but chances are you'd have to build it yourself. I listed the parts in the order you'd be likely to be able to specify in a prebuilt system (like Dell), but keep in mind that Dell will give you the cheapest crap they can and charge you more money for it. If you build your own system, you KNOW you're getting the best parts available, and you KNOW you'll be getting the best price you can find.
0) CPU Code 2 Duo 6600 (or better)
1) AT LEAST 2gb of RAM, 4gb would be better
2) A decent PCIe video card (nVidia would be my choice) If you're gonna go with Vista, I would recommend a card that would at least support DirectX 10.
3) A 650 watt power supply
4) A wide screen monitor so you can see more source code on the screen - nothing smaller than 22-inch.
5) Motherboard with a 680i chipset
6) A decent heatsink/fan combo - I use and recommend the Termaltake Ultra 120.
7) A decent case that is big enough to permit decent air flow. make sure the case has a 120mm fan for BOTH intake and exhaust
I didn't include drives because selecting those should be a) obvious and b) dependant on how you like your drives configured.
Have fun.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Hi John,
thanks a lot for your very precise hints! One more question: does it make sense to use a 64-bit-CPU and OS? Would VS 2005 be able to deal with this environment at all?
Wolfgang
Berlin/Germany
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I use 32-bit, but I see no reason VS2005 wouldn't be able to deal with it (it has compiler stuff for 64-bit).
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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OK, thanks again, John. I'll think about.
Wolfgang
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I will agree with John about the CPU, PSU>500Watt and the 4G Ram but I don't think you will need something special in graphics and motherboard department. 680 is needed if you want to use SLI x16 or if you're an advanced overlocker...I think a cheap 965 mobo will be good for you...also you don't need expensive GPU...a 8500GT or 7600GT will be fine.
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Hi Kallileo,
well, I don't need much graphical power, that's right, and I don't care two figs about overclocking. So, how do you think about a 965p DS3 mobo / alternatively a DQ6? Or is there already something better on the market?
Wolfgang
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It doesn't really matter for you. Any motherboard with 965 is good. The main difference between DS3 and DQ6 is that DQ6 has native RAID support via Intel ICH8R(southbgridge). DS3 has ICH8 and raid support via Jmicron controller not through Southbridge.
Both very good mobos. I had a DS4 and I didn't have any problems...
If you're going to buy Gigabyte mobo look for 3.3 Version because it has native 1333fsb support for the upcoming Intel CPUs but I think older version will work fine too.
Also Asus P5B Deluxe is an excelent mobo.
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OK, as a single developer I don't work with a RAID-System; I backup my projects daily on an external hard disk. So far, so good. Aditionally a question, which I already asked John: what do you think about working on a 64-bit OS? Does VS 2005 also work on a 64-bit base (output 32 bit, of course), or does it run with 32-bit, no matter what the OS is able to?
Wolfgang
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I haven't tried 64bit editions yet so I don't know.
Sql Server 2005 64 bit overview:
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/editions/64bit/overview.mspx
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OK, many thanks so far.
Wolfgang
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sohst wrote: OK, as a single developer I don't work with a RAID-System
I'm the same way - every motherboard I've purchased in the last 7 years supports RAID in some form or another, but I don't use it. What I find truly strange is that RAID drivers are almost always provided on floppy disks instead of being included on the motherboard's CD-ROM. I haven't had a floppy drive in my systems for a number of years...
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Well, if my hard disk conks out, I simply have to buy a new one and restore all project data from my backup hard disk. I think, a RAID system only has to guarantee an absoluteley uninterrupted service - normally required at web/file servers. But this doesn't supersede or even matches my backup necessities. So, I personally never used a RAID system and actually never missed it, too. ... Hope, I'm not on the wrong track! 
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kallileo wrote: I think a cheap 965 mobo
When you buy "cheapo" parts, you get questionable reliability.
kallileo wrote: also you don't need expensive GPU
I wasn't recommending a killer video card - I was recommending that if he intends to move to Vista, he should get a DX-10 capable card. I have a 8800gtx, but that's still above $500. nVidia recently announced much less capable (yet DX-10-comaptible) cards. They're supposed to be significantly cheaper but I haven't checked them out yet.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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I have change 3 mobos in the last 6 months. I had a gigabyte ds4, a dfi 975X/G and now a DFI RD600.
What I say is that since you're not an overclocker or a gamer either u buy a gigabyte ds3(120$) or an Asus Commando(220$) it's the same.
Nvidia 8500GT(dx10) cost about 140$ and 8600GTS around 200$.
Now about RAID.
Raid Drivers are always in floppy disk but I use nlite to intergrate them into the Windows XP cd. So I don't need floppy disk for raid then I install Windows.
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Hi
Can any one tell how to configure a Switch for
1.LAN connection without Internet connection.
2.LAN connection with Internet connection.
Thank u
Chandu
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Normal home/small office switches don't have any configuration, just plug in all the cables and it works.
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You have to follow these instructions precisely:
1) Get a 35-foot CAT-5e cable rated for outside use, and make 7 coils between 7 and 8 inches in diameter, twisting the wire three times before it completes a coil. Lay the coiled wire on the desk and place something heavy on it to keep the coils from uncoiling.
2) Get four standard 7-inch metal butter knives, and tape them together so that when laid flat on the desk, the handles alternate between pointing up and down. Some people claim that if the handle is down on the left side, you get a better signal, but nobody's been able to prove it to my satisfaction.
3) Use 2-inch wide aluminum tape to connect the knifes together at both ends (be careful not to let the tape at one end touch the tape at the other end.
4) Solder a six-inch piece of 16-gauge wire on the handles of both the outermost knives.
5) Wrap the knife assembly in electrical tape so that the only thing exposed is the two pieces of wire.
6) Take the knife assembly and carefully tape the wire as tightly as possible to the coiled cat-5 cable. The tape will also server to keep the cat-5 coiled up.
7) Take one end of the cat5 and plug it into your switch. Plug the other end into your computer.
8) Your your internet connection. If you get a net connection that you don't want, unplug the cat5 from your computer and plug it into another available port on your switch. (that's why they call a switch a "switch").
If you're still having problems, google is your friend.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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sounds like how mcgyver would create a coil gun
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You forgot to mention the tinfoil hat requirement during periods of heavy sunspot activity. And here I thought you were an expert...
"A Journey of a Thousand Rest Stops Begins with a Single Movement"
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Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 1000GB SATA II (HDS721010KLA330)
for 316,32 Euro! That’s insane!
Cheers
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So what? Next month it'll be even less...
Dave Kreskowiak
Microsoft MVP
Visual Developer - Visual Basic
2006, 2007
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