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If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.
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Reported all the messages and deleted. Members are on two atm.
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All Members except one are gone.
Member still needs kicking (7th from bottom up on your list):
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If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Spam were no-one is looking, sneaky 
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How's that for a catchy title?
CodeProject is for software developers to discuss software development and their lives as software developers. We all have a broad range of interests, but the focus is on software and we have very deliberately asked the community to keep the discussions vaguely technology related with the emphasis on being respectful and inclusive. Discussions that are controversial or where a more open, direct, glove-off conversation is needed (or wanted) go in the Soapbox.
Everyone has the right to free speech. Everyone has the responsibility to respect the site and the community. If you have an axe to grind then take it elsewhere. There are a million sites more suited to political or religious (for example) debates, or at worst start your own blog. That's your right. If you do want to discuss politics or religion (or whatever) then discuss it in the right place, be respectful, and keep those discussions in the forums best suited. That's your responsibility.
The specific issue I'd like to address is Munchies_Matt's signature. It's statement and a link to an online petition that is clearly political, religious and divisive. It's there purely for attention, and I'm sure he's wriggling with joy that we're discussing him. That's the only purpose of the sig: to stir up a fight.
The reaction has been varied. The signature breaches the rules of the Lounge and can be interpreted to breach the site's Terms of Service and I've asked him to remove the signature. Other reactions have ranged from pointing out that the sig should be changed to wholesale closing of all messages by the user.
I, personally, aren't interested in a person who just wants to increase my workload without giving back anything to the software developer world. There are way too many extremely talented, generous and generally wonderful human beings contributing day in and day out who I need to give my time to.
However, before I do anything I wanted hear from the community. Society evolves, as do we, so let's hear from you as to how we as a community should approach a situation like this.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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It's a difficult one - it's clearly political, and that is against the lounge rules. If it breaks the site T&C (and I don't know which part it breaks, but I assume you mean "12. YOUR USE OF THE SERVICES") then it's clear cut: lose it or lose the account.
What is abuse? That's always going to be a difficult one, because it depends on your personal feelings on the matter: for a Palestinian, it's not abuse. For an Israeli, it probably is.
I'd say in this case that it's inappropriate outside the soapbox, and he should remove it (though my personal feelings would be to side with the Palestinians rather than the Israelis on this one)
But it's not that simple. What about links in sigs in general? Most are innocuous, some are charitable, some are advertising. Should those be banned as well? Or even just ban sigs completely?
My feeling is that banning sigs would be the better way to go: that way the content of the message is all you can be judged on, rather than matters which may be incidental to the purpose of the post.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: That's always going to be a difficult one, because it depends on your personal feelings on the matter
I think of it differently. It's not about the parties involved. It's about the intent of the person posting, and the intent is to go against the posting guidelines. It's abusing the site and the community. I'm not sure I'd consider the sig per se actually offensive. Inflammatory, divisive, reactionary, and totally without context, absolutely. This is the internet, after all. Implicitly, though, it's directed at a single country and religion, and posting that on CodeProject is offensive.
That's not the community I work for.
OriginalGriff wrote: What about links in sigs in general?
Yeah, right? The can of worms opens. I've said I'm happy for someone to have a link back to their company or product. They should be proud. They just can't blatantly advertise it. This is the second issue I have with the given signature: it's a direct call to action; an advertisement. Not cool.
OriginalGriff wrote: My feeling is that banning sigs would be the better way to go
Interesting throught. I'm not willing to block everyone's sig, though. I'd rather simply have it be a benefit we remove for individuals if abused.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: intent is to go against the posting guidelines. It's abusing the site and the community
You are wrong Chris.
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You might want to expound on that. Just telling someone they are wrong is not an argument and does not move someone from their position.
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Well, that clearly Chris is wrong when he thinks my intent is to go against posting rules. My intent is to advertise the a petition that seeks to uphold international law since if enforced there is a far greater chance of peace in the ME and hence the world.
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I condemn your reaction that you are not even ready to listen to Admins. I think you are the first to ignore the advise from them and have such an attitude. So called 'freedom of speech' has nothing to do with this discussion or the issue we are discussing on. What do you mean by your current signature?
All i want to say is, you should be ready to face the consequences in form of account cancellation.
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Rohan Leuva wrote: I condemn your reaction
Oh do you now. Who made you the judge and jury?
You are just like many other people in the world, you cant abide difference. Well you are wrong in so many ways I am not even gong to bother pointing them out to you.
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