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OriginalGriff6-Oct-15 8:42

6-Oct-15 8:42

I'm not so sure.
If we get a reputation for "helping virus writers" and such forms of pond scum, then we start to risk going on corporate blacklists - which means we can't help the kind of people who want to get rid of viruses rather than write them.

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ZurdoDev6-Oct-15 8:55

ZurdoDev

6-Oct-15 8:55

OriginalGriff wrote:
If we get a reputation for "helping virus writers" and such forms of pond scum, then we start to risk going on corporate blacklists

The likelihood of that is so miniscule that it would never happen. We rarely get those types of questions and even if we helped point someone in the right direction, you know that no one is going to write all of the code so there's no way we'd ever get that reputation. Instead, we have the reputation of telling people to shut-up and go away. Sniff | :^)

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Deflinek6-Oct-15 9:03

Deflinek

6-Oct-15 9:03

You are absolutely right especially with the example you gave. There is no way to correctly protect against sql injection if you don't know inside out how it works.

However in this specific case I think it is a bit different. Credit cards are already made to provide fast and reliable way of accessing information on it, sometimes in 3 different ways on the same card.

If someone need a "creative" way to extract data on card while bypassing all the other methods it is clear sign they do something dodgy. Like placing hidden camera over ATM. Not to mention that the font on my card already looks "ocr friendly" to me so it can indicate low quality image or very colorful card...

Unless he can provide credible use case, I would invoke the power of ban-hammer....

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ZurdoDev6-Oct-15 9:29

ZurdoDev

6-Oct-15 9:29

Deflinek wrote:
way to extract data on card while bypassing all the other methods it is clear sign they do something dodgy.

Again, I disagree. I could easily see stores implementing a POS that just allows you to put your card in front of a scanner instead of swiping it.

No matter the use case, there will always be someone who can try and hack it. I say we don't be so quick to judge people.

Also, because most of the people that ask these questions are not likely intelligent enough to pull off a scam anyway. $Shucks | :-\$

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Richard Deeming7-Oct-15 2:20

Richard Deeming

7-Oct-15 2:20

Deflinek wrote:
There is no way to correctly protect against sql injection if you don't know inside out how it works.

All you really need to know is that you should always use parameterized queries, and never use string concatenation, even from within SQL itself. You can do that without having an in-depth knowledge of how SQLi works. Smile | :)

I think the main difference is that telling someone about SQLi is like telling them to lock their front door, whereas telling them how to steal credit-card numbers via a webcam is like telling them how to pick a lock. Picking locks is a useful skill for locksmiths, but the majority of people don't need to know how to do it.

Anyway, who needs webcams when people willingly share their card details on Twitter[^]? D'Oh! | :doh:

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Nicholas Marty7-Oct-15 4:55

Nicholas Marty

7-Oct-15 4:55

Richard Deeming wrote:

Anyway, who needs webcams when people willingly share their card details on Twitter[^]?

No elephanting way! WTF | :WTF:

Nelek6-Oct-15 1:41

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6-Oct-15 1:41

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6-Oct-15 5:08

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Thanks78726-Oct-15 0:45

Thanks7872

6-Oct-15 0:45

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Richard Deeming6-Oct-15 1:41

Richard Deeming

6-Oct-15 1:41

10th kick applied.

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Nelek6-Oct-15 0:43

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6-Oct-15 0:43

M.D.V.

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Richard Deeming6-Oct-15 1:41

Richard Deeming

6-Oct-15 1:41

10th kick applied.

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Abuser in QA

Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan5-Oct-15 23:26

5-Oct-15 23:26

This user[^] posting abusive questions.

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modified 6-Oct-15 6:12am.

OriginalGriff5-Oct-15 23:35

5-Oct-15 23:35

It's not spam - spam is posting advertising or links to your site without permission or a damn good reason - but it is abuse / trolling.

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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan5-Oct-15 23:37

5-Oct-15 23:37

You got me, that was just the "autocomplete" feature being used. Wink | ;-)

Changed it

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OriginalGriff5-Oct-15 23:46

5-Oct-15 23:46

You gotta be careful with that - items closed with "Spam" tags are forwarded to the spam detector and may confuse it if they are abuse instead. Laugh | :laugh:

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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan5-Oct-15 23:47

5-Oct-15 23:47

My apologies. Smile | :)

Won't let that happen, again.

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User 110609796-Oct-15 0:30

User 11060979

6-Oct-15 0:30

In Q/A, Spam/Abuse is one and the same Option for reporting Confused | :confused:

modified 19-Jan-21 21:04pm.

OriginalGriff6-Oct-15 0:38

6-Oct-15 0:38

Yes - but it isn't for the user, and it's a good practice to get it right! Laugh | :laugh:

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Nelek6-Oct-15 0:14

6-Oct-15 0:14

I corrected it for you

M.D.V.

Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan6-Oct-15 0:15

6-Oct-15 0:15

Thank you! Smile | :)

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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter6-Oct-15 0:23

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

6-Oct-15 0:23

As the post removed (I saw only one from the beginning) and the user is new here (joined today) we may let him be for now...

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ZurdoDev6-Oct-15 5:44

ZurdoDev

6-Oct-15 5:44

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
we may let him be for now

Too late.

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Pete O'Hanlon5-Oct-15 21:19

Pete O'Hanlon

5-Oct-15 21:19

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Nelek5-Oct-15 22:23