.NET (Core and Framework)

Pete O'Hanlon26-Mar-09 2:29

Pete O'Hanlon

26-Mar-09 2:29

Luc Pattyn wrote:
You could bootstrap it, starting with a subset of C#, write an embryonic C# compiler, tweak stuff a bit in the early generations, and grow it. That is how nature does things after all. I may take a while though.

You could. It's still a pointless exercise.

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led mike26-Mar-09 4:47

led mike

26-Mar-09 4:47

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
What are you wittering on about

Did you drop a 'T' or is "wittering" a word I am not familiar with?

Pete O'Hanlon26-Mar-09 5:09

Pete O'Hanlon

26-Mar-09 5:09

led mike wrote:
Did you drop a 'T' or is "wittering" a word I am not familiar with?

Here's[^] one source of usage. Locally, it means to ramble on uselessly.

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led mike26-Mar-09 5:23

led mike

26-Mar-09 5:23

British word meaning "talking boring, inconsequential rubbish that nobody is interested in".

So same meaning as twitter, I suspected as much. Could have looked it up myself but it presented an excuse to do some twittering of my own. Big Grin | :-D

Luc Pattyn26-Mar-09 5:11

Luc Pattyn

26-Mar-09 5:11

wittering = being witty?

witticising isn't a word yet.

Smile | :)

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Roger Wright26-Mar-09 19:30

Roger Wright

26-Mar-09 19:30

Besides, the .Net Framework was written in Javascript, not C#. It just wouldn't be right...

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Brady Kelly26-Mar-09 4:38

Brady Kelly

26-Mar-09 4:38

crrajaguru wrote:
but i don't know top to bottom

No kidding. Laugh | :laugh:

Pete O'Hanlon26-Mar-09 4:47

Pete O'Hanlon

26-Mar-09 4:47

The words arse and elbow come to mind here.

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Capture HTTP_USER_AGENT in WinForms?

Jeremy Falcon26-Mar-09 8:18

Jeremy Falcon

26-Mar-09 8:18

crrajaguru wrote:
any one give idea about
framework

I heard they used software to make it.

crrajaguru wrote:
And also give flow for creating .net framework

Energy flows from the fingers to the keyboard. And then signals flow from the keyboard to the computer.

crrajaguru wrote:
i don't know it's possible or not..

It's not possible. Microsoft specifically designed .NET so that people couldn't program in it. The best we can hope for is using forum software to use it's AI to program it.

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PSU Steve25-Mar-09 11:10

PSU Steve

25-Mar-09 11:10

Forgive me if this is a stupid request...

In web apps (classic ASP) I can capture the HTTP_USER_AGENT ServerVariable which reports the complete client browser information, including what .NET Frameworks are installed. Is there any possible way I can capture this (or an equivalent) in a WinForms application (without going to a web server)? Basically what I'm after is a complete list of all the .NET Frameworks installed and the HTTP_USER_AGENT seemed to be my best bet.

Thanks... Steve

Re: Capture HTTP_USER_AGENT in WinForms?

Eddy Vluggen25-Mar-09 22:04

Mixed Enabled Check Boxes in a Tree View?

25-Mar-09 22:04

Not a stoopid request at all. Start here[^] Smile | :)

I are troll Smile | :)

Tristan Rhodes24-Mar-09 5:59

Tristan Rhodes

24-Mar-09 5:59

Hi Guys,

I was wondering if there was any way to toggle the enabled states of the check boxes on a node by node basis?

I've tried handling the events but they won't stop the check box checking if it's clicked repeatedly.

Cheers

Tris

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VS 2005 install messes with other apps

rcampbell1224-Mar-09 5:05

rcampbell12

24-Mar-09 5:05

I recently reinstalled VS 2005 and after that, a dialog would come up when I started MS Word. It said "the feature you are using is on the VS 2005 CD and must be installed" (or something to that effect). Naturally, MS can't tell you what bleeping feature I'm supposedly using (all I had done was to start up Word). Then it takes 10 minutes or more to install this "feauture" after I supply the disk and still never tells me WTF it did. This happened the other day on another MS product - I think it was Expression Web - and it was the same story: no indication of what "feature" I was using and a long install (about 20 minutes). What the &$^# is going on when VS 2005 has to screw up other working programs and force you to do a further install? Those programs were on my machine at the time. Couldn't it install what it needed for those programs? In both cases I was not really doing anything or using any "feature" - I was just opening the app. Is it not possible MS to get what it needs installed the first time and not make you go back to do more installation later? Is it not possible for them to tell you what "feature" you're supposedly using and what the blank they just installed? This is something of a rant and complaint, but I would like to know the answers to these questions if you happen to be familiar with why this happens. Thanks.

Russell

Eddy Vluggen24-Mar-09 5:19

24-Mar-09 5:19

The auto-"repair"[^] function of Windows Installer?

Drives one nuts, from time to time.. Sniff | :^)

I are troll Smile | :)

rcampbell1224-Mar-09 5:23

rcampbell12

24-Mar-09 5:23

Maybe.

"I are troll" ??? Wouldn't want to associate myself with trolls . . . perhaps I am not understanding this correctly.

Eddy Vluggen24-Mar-09 7:44

24-Mar-09 7:44

Alas, there are no trolls on the alliance-side. I was a Draenei actually, but a blue cow would make even less sense in a sig. Unless you play World of Warcraft! Two months clean now Suspicious | :suss:

Still, I think that I'm close to being a troll. Too young to be an Undead, to small and sober to be a Tauren, but reelly bigmouthed, bigfooted and used to making every mistake in the book - and going back if I feel like I missed a blunder.

See, if one of the methods of learning is called "trial and error", and you learn from your mistakes - then by that same reasoning you have missed a learning-opportunity if you haven't messed up everything at least once Smile | :)

Yah, I 're troll Cool | :cool:

I are troll Smile | :)

rcampbell1224-Mar-09 7:47

rcampbell12

24-Mar-09 7:47

Oh, no wonder I didn't understand. I'm not a gamer at all.

Compiler

Olivier Gautherot24-Mar-09 4:47

24-Mar-09 4:47

Hi,

I am acting as a subcontractor and need to install an app in a .NET 2.0 environment. Unfortunately the only compiler I have at hand at the moment is VisualStudio 2008 Express, which supports only .NET 3.5. I started porting the code from C# to pure C++ (console app) but figured out that it also requires .NET 3.5.

Can anyone recommend which compiler I should use? Free or commercial?

Thanks in advance
Olivier

Luc Pattyn24-Mar-09 4:53

Luc Pattyn

24-Mar-09 4:53

Hi,

1.
VS2008 targets .NET 2.0/3.0/3.5 i.e. you can choose what .NET Framework your app will rely upon.
VS2008 itself requires .NET 3.5

2.
all .NET Frameworks can be downloaded freely and can be installed in 10 minutes.

3.
VS2008 has Express Editions for each of the supported languages; these are free, and can be downloaded and installed in 10 minutes.
FYI: Each language uses a different VS2008 Express, making working with multiple languages more difficult.

Smile | :)

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Olivier Gautherot24-Mar-09 5:03

24-Mar-09 5:03

Hi Luc,

Good tips but I have some feedback:

1. If VS2008 can target 2.0, I guess you're referring to the full version (not Express, which does not give the option - or, at least, I have not found it: the option is inactive and forced to 3.5)

2. Try to convince a financial institution that they have to update the framework of their back-end just for a small add-on... Smile | :)

Which is why I would prefer to stick to their environment, not force a new one.

3. I am using VS2008 Express in English without any issue... apart from the .NET framework targeted!

I will try the trial version of VS2008: this may be my answer in the short-term.

Thanks
Olivier

Eddy Vluggen24-Mar-09 5:17

24-Mar-09 5:17

1, 2 + 3: SharpDevelop lets you target the .NET 2.0 framework, just like Visual Studio does Smile | :)

I are troll Smile | :)

Olivier Gautherot24-Mar-09 5:36

24-Mar-09 5:36

Hi Eddy,

Good tip for future projects. My main issue here could be the license: they accept only proprietary code and BSD-like licenses. GPL and LGPL are an issue - and part of the app accesses a database (there, FreeTDS would be rejected for this reason). So I have to stick to VS200x, I'm afraid Frown | :-(

(also, I have to deliver, don't have time to investigate this time...)

Cheers
Olivier

Eddy Vluggen24-Mar-09 7:50

24-Mar-09 7:50

I believe the license is for the IDE and it's source, not for the things that you create with it. And I wouldn't switch if you got something that works now indeed.

Good luck Smile | :)

I are troll Smile | :)

Luc Pattyn24-Mar-09 5:17

Luc Pattyn

24-Mar-09 5:17

Hi Olivier,

VS2008 (whatever programming language, whatever edition) needs 3.5 on the development system, not on the target system.

I use VS2008C# Express and target .NET 2.0 most of the time. I can choose 2.0/3.0/3.5 (but not 1.0/1.1) on the project level, by going to project properties, application tab.

Not sure what the user language situation is; if Express is English only, IMO that would not change anything for the resulting app.

Smile | :)

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Olivier Gautherot24-Mar-09 5:29