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WebSvcs vs Remoting Kant27-Jan-04 6:24 Kant 27-Jan-04 6:24  What are the differences between them? How do I make decision on choosing on of them in my project? (ASP.NET (must be thin client) -> {?? WebSvc/Remoting} -> Data Access Layer(ADO.NET) -> DB) Is there any link on MSDN or anywhere on the web which explains in detail. TIA Promise only what you can do. And then deliver more than what you promised. This signature was created by "Code Project Quoter". Re: WebSvcs vs Remoting Heath Stewart27-Jan-04 6:36 Heath Stewart 27-Jan-04 6:36  Web Services by nature are one-way communications since they use HTTP. .NET Remoting allows you to use TCP or HTTP channels, so communications can be two-way (i.e., the server can also talk to the client). .NET Remoting also allows you to chain sinks together (know as Aspect-Oriented Programming, or AOP) that allows you to work on the messages and add or change things as the formatted messages go through the sink chain. .NET Remoting also allows you to use a binary formatter as opposed to a SOAP formatter (which Web Services use) which is much faster when serializing object graphs and uses less bandwidth to transmit. For a comparison of ASP.NET/Web Services vs. .NET Remoting, see http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/cpguide/html/cpconchoosingcommunicationoptionsinnet.asp[^]. This also contains links to more information regarding each of the technologies.   -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.21 GCS/G/MU d- s: a- C++++ UL@ P++(+++) L+(--) E--- W+++ N++ o+ K? w++++ O- M(+) V? PS-- PE Y++ PGP++ t++@ 5 X+++ R+@ tv+ b(-)>b++ DI++++ D+ G e++>+++ h---* r+++ y+++ -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Re: WebSvcs vs Remoting Kant27-Jan-04 6:47 Kant 27-Jan-04 6:47  I was hoping that you would reply. Thanks for clarifying me. Meanwhile I found a link[^] at MSDN but that's old link, that too related VB. Promise only what you can do. And then deliver more than what you promised. This signature was created by "Code Project Quoter". Re: WebSvcs vs Remoting Uwe Keim28-Jan-04 3:11 Uwe Keim 28-Jan-04 3:11  The best place I found is www.ingorammer.com [^], an Austrian guy from which I also bought a book now. -- - Free Windows-based CMS: www.zeta-software.de/enu/producer/freeware/download.html - See me: www.magerquark.de - MSN Messenger: uwe_keim@hotmail.com Custom controls Radoslav Bielik27-Jan-04 6:01 Radoslav Bielik 27-Jan-04 6:01  Hi everyone, I'm using VS.NET 2003 to develop WIndows Forms applications - my question is, when I add a user control to a control library project that is part of my solution, it automatically appears in the "My User Controls" section of the VS toolbox. Is it possible to have VS automatically recognize my custom controls as well or not? Thanks rado Radoslav Bielik http://www.neomyz.com/poll [^] - Get your own web poll Re: Custom controls John Fisher27-Jan-04 6:54 John Fisher 27-Jan-04 6:54  In my experience that happens automatically when you compile your control. John "You said a whole sentence with no words in it, and I understood you!" -- my wife as she cries about slowly becoming a geek. Re: Custom controls Radoslav Bielik27-Jan-04 6:57 Radoslav Bielik 27-Jan-04 6:57  For me it happens only for user controls upon compilation, but not for custom controls Is it possible to configure it somewhere? rado Radoslav Bielik http://www.neomyz.com/poll [^] - Get your own web poll Re: Custom controls John Fisher27-Jan-04 7:12 John Fisher 27-Jan-04 7:12  I didn't understand that there was a difference between the two. What do you mean by "custom control"? John "You said a whole sentence with no words in it, and I understood you!" -- my wife as she cries about slowly becoming a geek. Re: Custom controls Radoslav Bielik27-Jan-04 7:26 Radoslav Bielik 27-Jan-04 7:26  Sorry for the confusion and thanks for the response, when you choose to "Add User Control" to the project, and select the "Custom Control" template, the new control is derived from System.Windows.Forms.Control, whereas when you choose the "User Control" template (this one is preset by default), the new control is derived from System.Windows.Forms.UserControl. The Heath's response below provides a detailed answer to my question and explains why only the controls derived from UserControl appear in the toolbox. rado Radoslav Bielik http://www.neomyz.com/poll [^] - Get your own web poll Re: Custom controls John Fisher27-Jan-04 7:37 John Fisher 27-Jan-04 7:37  Ah, yes. Basically, if you simply want a new control to use on your forms, inherit from UserControl. If you want a control that is not designable, then inherit directly from Control. (There are other technicalities, but the intended goal of the control is what matters most.) John "You said a whole sentence with no words in it, and I understood you!" -- my wife as she cries about slowly becoming a geek. Re: Custom controls Radoslav Bielik27-Jan-04 7:45 Radoslav Bielik 27-Jan-04 7:45  Thank you for your response. But when I want to create something like an owner drawn button, I guess the best way would be to derive from System.Windows.Forms.Button to inherit most of the button functionality, which will make my new button control not designable. Is this correct, or is there a better approach? Thanks again, Rado Radoslav Bielik http://www.neomyz.com/poll [^] - Get your own web poll Re: Custom controls John Fisher27-Jan-04 12:44 John Fisher 27-Jan-04 12:44  Since Button is already designable, I believe that a class inheritting from Button will be as well. Go ahead and try it if you haven't already. (Just add a new UserControl to your project, then change "UserControl" to "Button". See what happens.) John "You said a whole sentence with no words in it, and I understood you!" -- my wife as she cries about slowly becoming a geek. Re: Custom controls Nick Parker27-Jan-04 6:56 Nick Parker 27-Jan-04 6:56  Radoslav Bielik wrote: Is it possible to have VS automatically recognize my custom controls as well or not? Specifically, what do you mean? - Nick Parker   My Blog Re: Custom controls Heath Stewart27-Jan-04 7:02 Heath Stewart 27-Jan-04 7:02  The documentation states that this behavior only works on controls derived form System.Windows.Forms.UserControl. If you want to create a custom designer, however, you can have other controls show up for designed components (that use that designer) through various means. You can, for instance, request the IToolboxService in your Initialize override in your designer and add ToolboxItems and categories. You can also do this with your control without using a designer by override the Site property. If you look at the documentation for the System.Drawing.Design.ToolboxItem class in the .NET Framework SDK, you can see an example of this latter method. There's many other ways to do something like this, too. I'd recommend you look over the System.ComponentModel, System.ComponentModel.Design, System.Drawing.Design, and System.Windows.Forms.Design namespaces. There's a lot of great classes and interfaces in there you can use. There's also topics in the .NET Framework SDK that talk about designers, editors, and other ways to extend design-time development for your controls.   -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.21 GCS/G/MU d- s: a- C++++ UL@ P++(+++) L+(--) E--- W+++ N++ o+ K? w++++ O- M(+) V? PS-- PE Y++ PGP++ t++@ 5 X+++ R+@ tv+ b(-)>b++ DI++++ D+ G e++>+++ h---* r+++ y+++ -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Re: Custom controls Radoslav Bielik27-Jan-04 7:21 Radoslav Bielik 27-Jan-04 7:21  Thank you for the detailed information and references, I will check this out. I have just one more question: what is the "best practice" when creating my own control? I guess that when I want to create something like owner drawn button it is the best to derive from System.Windows.Forms.Button, but when I want to create some simple brand new control (like an etched line) should I derive from System.Windows.Forms.Control or from System.Windows.Forms.UserControl? What are the differences? Thanks again, rado Radoslav Bielik http://www.neomyz.com/poll [^] - Get your own web poll Re: Custom controls Heath Stewart27-Jan-04 8:53 Heath Stewart 27-Jan-04 8:53  It depends. Deriving from Control is good when you want to encapsulate a native control or create a custom control that is a single entity (probably not the best choice of words, but let me explain...). A Button, for example, is just a button (encapsulating a Button common contorl). A ListView encapsulates a List-View common control. While the ListView has a column header, a scroll bar, etc., it still is a single control. UserControls, however, encapsulate functionality provided by many controls. It also derivces from ContainerControl which derives from ScrollableControl. Thus, it is a container of other controls that can, if configured, scroll when the controls it contains are hidden due to the size of their container (i.e., the UserControl-derivative).   -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.21 GCS/G/MU d- s: a- C++++ UL@ P++(+++) L+(--) E--- W+++ N++ o+ K? w++++ O- M(+) V? PS-- PE Y++ PGP++ t++@ 5 X+++ R+@ tv+ b(-)>b++ DI++++ D+ G e++>+++ h---* r+++ y+++ -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Re: Custom controls Radoslav Bielik27-Jan-04 20:14 Radoslav Bielik 27-Jan-04 20:14  Thanks for a very good explanation! Sometimes I wonder how do you manage to provide such a great help to all the people in the message boards - your help is priceless! Thanks again Rado Radoslav Bielik http://www.neomyz.com/poll [^] - Get your own web poll Another Internet Explorer question... profoundwhispers27-Jan-04 5:13 profoundwhispers 27-Jan-04 5:13  Actually, 2! 1- If we use InternetExplorer object instead of AxWebBrowser object, does it fetch pages any faster because it's not required to fetch the images on the HTML pages too? 2- Is there a way to set the properties of the AxWebBrowser used in the project without affecting the global settings? For example: I don't want the browser in my project to display images, or for instance, I want it to be offline, but not the other IEs in Windows. Possible? Thank you. Sammy "A good friend, is like a good book: the inside is better than the cover..." Re: Another Internet Explorer question... Heath Stewart27-Jan-04 6:31 Heath Stewart 27-Jan-04 6:31  Internet Explorer uses the WebBrowser object, so there really is no difference. The InternetExplorer automation server is just an out-of-process container for the WebBrowser control (which hosts and provides services to MSHTML). So no, it won't fetch pages any faster. Settings for the WebBrowser control (and many affect MSHTML in general) are global. Only a few things like printer settings can you override on a per-instance basis. You can use the hosting interfaces, however, to control a few aspects of the WebBrowser control, such as the context menus, URL resolution when a link is clicked, and several other things. See Using MSHTML Advanced Hosting Interfaces[^] for more information.   -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.21 GCS/G/MU d- s: a- C++++ UL@ P++(+++) L+(--) E--- W+++ N++ o+ K? w++++ O- M(+) V? PS-- PE Y++ PGP++ t++@ 5 X+++ R+@ tv+ b(-)>b++ DI++++ D+ G e++>+++ h---* r+++ y+++ -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Any idea about editing mpeg2 files habiburrehman27-Jan-04 4:19 habiburrehman 27-Jan-04 4:19  I am working on a project in which we have to provide a UI to user in which all frames belonging to a selected mpeg2 video file are displayed. User then assign some attribute to each frame and then we have to store that video with those attributes added to each frame. Can any one give some idea about libraries or API's or controls which can help us. Voice in C# Abkarino27-Jan-04 3:35 Abkarino 27-Jan-04 3:35  hey guys i have a question i have a project that uses voice wich input to the pc through microphone so i need to know how to catch voice from the mic and deal with it as binary bits using C# code thanks to u all Abkarino Re: Voice in C# Heath Stewart27-Jan-04 4:40 Heath Stewart 27-Jan-04 4:40  You can use the Microsoft Speech SDK[^], although it's still in beta stages. You can use older versions but they rely on COM components for the most part that you can use from your .NET applications through a COM interop assembly (which you can generate through VS.NET or using tlbimp.exe for typelibs and aximp.exe for ActiveX controls. There are several ActiveX controls included, but you will need to redistribute the Speech runtime in order for users to use this (there are Merge Modules for Windows Installer projects available).   -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.21 GCS/G/MU d- s: a- C++++ UL@ P++(+++) L+(--) E--- W+++ N++ o+ K? w++++ O- M(+) V? PS-- PE Y++ PGP++ t++@ 5 X+++ R+@ tv+ b(-)>b++ DI++++ D+ G e++>+++ h---* r+++ y+++ -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Re: Voice in C# bindu012321-Apr-09 21:21 bindu0123 21-Apr-09 21:21  hey i'm doing a project which enables the user to control windows through voice (Ex:-if the users says open word it should open MSWord), i want to know how this can be done. thank you bindu0123 Message Queues & Service Dpriya27-Jan-04 2:21 Dpriya 27-Jan-04 2:21  Hi, I had written a windows servcie which creates a message queue .I write some data into the queue & read it back when the receive _completed event is fired. I have 2 issues: 1) I can write a single msg into the Queue & read it back from my service .If I view under in Computer Management - Service & Applications - Message queuing -private queues , I get the msg " Access Denied". 2) How do I write approximately 100 msgs into the queue continuously & read it back one by one. Can Anybody help me with these issue? Thanks in advance Priya Re: Message Queues & Service Heath Stewart27-Jan-04 4:32 Heath Stewart 27-Jan-04 4:32  It depends on what kind of queue you created. If you've created a private queue, then the queue runs under the permissions configured for the Windows Service. If you're running the service as the LocalSystem account, you won't be able to access it. Same goes if you're running it as another user, unless you impersonate that user access will be denied. Create a public queue instead. As far as writing messages continuously while reading them, you should create a separate thread or threads for writing to the queue or use asynchronous calls to send messages while you continue reading them one by one (which is all you can do since they are queued).   -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.21 GCS/G/MU d- s: a- C++++ UL@ P++(+++) L+(--) E--- W+++ N++ o+ K? w++++ O- M(+) V? PS-- PE Y++ PGP++ t++@ 5 X+++ R+@ tv+ b(-)>b++ DI++++ D+ G e++>+++ h---* r+++ y+++ -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK-----

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