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That makes sense, and I can see the need to differentiate. I've just never seen MS refer to it as that and was wondering if it's sort of a defacto term.
I, for one, do not think the problem was that the band was down. I think that the problem may have been that there was a Stonehenge monument on the stage that was in danger of being crushed by a dwarf.
-David St. Hubbins
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Blame Microsoft's marketing department - everyone else does!  Fonrtunately, the ".NET" was removed from their server product names and some of their services because everyone was confused!
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My picks are
thecodeproject.com
codeproject.com [the eeeeevil twin]
c-sharpcorner.com
csharphelp.com
msdn.microsoft.com/vcsharp
dotnet247.com
dotnetjunkies.com
Those'll keep ya busy.
The graveyards are filled with indispensible men.
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hi...
based on the inherritance issue i have one more problem. if you see the code below
class base1<br />
{<br />
public virtual void f( )<br />
{<br />
Console.WriteLine ( "In base1" ) ;<br />
}<br />
}<br />
class d1 : base1<br />
{<br />
public void f( )<br />
{<br />
Console.WriteLine ( "In d1" ) ;<br />
}<br />
}<br />
<br />
class Class1<br />
{<br />
static void Main ( string[ ] args )<br />
{<br />
base1 b = new d1( ) ;<br />
b.f( ) ;<br />
}<br />
}<br />
which yeailds In base1
it says base1 b = new d1()
1)why did it mix 2 classes??can we do that?why would we wanan do that??
when called b.f() - f of base1 is called!
2)why is that so?
tks a lot for any help..appreciate it..
Have a Super Blessed Day!
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For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
2 Timothy 1:7
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
John 3:16
"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expet."
Luke 12:40
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You forgot the keyword "override"
class d1 : base1
{
public override void f( )
{
Console.WriteLine ( "In d1" ) ;
}
}
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tks for the help....but that didn't answer my question! 
Have a Super Blessed Day!
-------------------------
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
2 Timothy 1:7
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
John 3:16
"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expet."
Luke 12:40
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Sorry, didn't read your question well enough.
To understand these concepts you need a book on classes and OOP. It takes too long to explain it well here.
Basically "base1 b = new d1()" says "Create a d1 type of object but treat it as a base1 type of object". This is only possible because d1 inherits base1.
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It's a very simple concept of object oriented programming.
Why can you call .ToString on a Windows Form? Because it's a System.Object AND a System.Windows.Forms.Form. It inherits from System.Object - and when a class inherits from another class, it instanciates the base class; you're essentially creating 2 objects as 1.
The graveyards are filled with indispensible men.
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hi..i am stuck with this problem..its very very confusing and even after reading book i cannot figure it out...can u pls help me?tks a lot
please consider the code :
class base1<br />
{<br />
public void call ( base1 b )<br />
{<br />
b.f( ) ;<br />
}<br />
<br />
public virtual void f( )<br />
{<br />
Console.WriteLine ( "In base1" ) ;<br />
}<br />
}<br />
<br />
class d1 : base1<br />
{<br />
public override void f( )<br />
{<br />
Console.WriteLine ( "In d1" ) ;<br />
}<br />
}<br />
class d2 : base1<br />
{<br />
public override void f( )<br />
{<br />
Console.WriteLine ( "In d2" ) ;<br />
}<br />
}<br />
class Class1<br />
{<br />
static void Main ( string[ ] args )<br />
{<br />
base1 b = new base1( ) ;<br />
d1 o1 = new d1( ) ;<br />
d2 o2 = new d2( ) ;<br />
<br />
b.call ( b ) ;<br />
b.call ( o1 ) ;<br />
b.call ( o2 ) ;<br />
}<br />
}
which yeilds :
In base1
In d1
In d2
prob : i dont understand how this result is generated...  confused:
allthe calls i see are thru b..but d gets called???
could u pls explain why this is happing??
tks a lot for any help..
really appreciate it..
tks a lot
Have a Super Blessed Day!
-------------------------
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
2 Timothy 1:7
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
John 3:16
"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expet."
Luke 12:40
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Its the f() that does the printing, and the b.f() in base1 that calls the different implementations of the virtual f method, one for each type. If you have a good book on classes and polymorphism, this will be explained.
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hi..i have another prob. would be glad if you could help..please consider the following code :
class sample<br />
{<br />
public void foo( )<br />
{<br />
Console.Write ( "In sample.foo" ) ;<br />
}<br />
}<br />
<br />
class sampleD : sample<br />
{<br />
protected void foo( )<br />
{<br />
Console.Write ( "In sampleD.foo" ) ;<br />
}<br />
}<br />
<br />
class Class1<br />
{<br />
static void Main ( string[ ] args )<br />
{<br />
sampleD s = new sampleD( ) ;<br />
s.foo( ) ;<br />
}<br />
}which yeilds : In sample.foo
my prob is : how can this happen?? the instance belongs to sampleD and the foo is called of sample...
can u pls help me and tell me why this happens...
tks a lot..
Have a Super Blessed Day!
-------------------------
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
2 Timothy 1:7
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
John 3:16
"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expet."
Luke 12:40
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Open Visual Studio, open the Help menu, select "Index".
Look up "protected keyword" and you will get the full explanation.
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good answer...
but if you read my question its a bit different...isn't it?
Have a Super Blessed Day!
-------------------------
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
2 Timothy 1:7
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
John 3:16
"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expet."
Luke 12:40
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Read about what the keyword "protected" means, and you will understand why the protected method never gets called.
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hi..if you have some free time, i'd appreciate if you can please help me.
please consider the following code :
class sample<br />
{<br />
protected int i ;<br />
public sample( )<br />
{<br />
i = 10 ;<br />
}<br />
}<br />
class sample1 : sample<br />
{<br />
public sample1( )<br />
{<br />
Console.Write ("Hello " + i ) ;<br />
}<br />
}<br />
class Class1<br />
{<br />
static void Main ( string[ ] args )<br />
{<br />
sample1 s = new sample1( ) ;<br />
}<br />
}
which yeilds the result : Hello 10
my prob : AS I CAN UNDERSTAND : in above case the derieved class is accessing the protected attribute of the base class... but i thought in CS that wasn't supposed to happen..
OR am i looking at it wrongly??
pls help..tks a lot
Have a Super Blessed Day!
-------------------------
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
2 Timothy 1:7
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
John 3:16
"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expet."
Luke 12:40
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Open Visual Studio, open the Help menu, select "Index".
Look up "protected keyword" and you will get the full explanation.
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any more explanation??
Have a Super Blessed Day!
-------------------------
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
2 Timothy 1:7
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
John 3:16
"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expet."
Luke 12:40
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What did you find out about what "protected" means?
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Joseph,
I think that the problem is that some of the folks on this forum may think that your questions are just a little too newbie-ish(?). For example, access modifiers like protected are covered very, very thoroughly in all beginner-level C# programming books, even the bad ones. Have you bought any books? You may also want to consider enrolling in a class somewhere to learn what object-oriented programming's all about. It's simple once you learn it, but learning it is not simple for all people. You won't learn OO programming by asking newbie questions on this forum, either.
So if you were to go off, learn the definition of protected, write some sample code to play around with it, and then you still had questions, it would be a different matter.
The answer to your question in this case is that you are confused on the difference between private and protected. private means that nothing outside of the class (not even child classes) can see the thing so labelled; protected means that only the class itself and child classes can see the thing so labelled. You could have easily found this out by browsing the MSDN help.
I'm not trying to put you down-- it's great that you're learning. Still, to flood this or any forum with questions you can easily answer for yourself amounts to a sort of spam. Also, like I said, I don't think that you will get what you're after this way; your goal should be a good understanding of these concepts.
Thank you.
Jeff Varszegi
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al right!!!! got it!!
you see the problem was i read but in a haste..
when i read..
The protected keyword is a member access modifier. A protected member is accessible from within the class in which it is declared, and from within any class derived from the class that declared this member.
A protected member of a base class is accessible in a derived class only if the access takes place through the derived class type. For example, consider the following code segment:
i didnt understand how it was related to my question...
but then i tried to read it slowly and now i understand...
to protected..someting like Privatish also applies
thats why..
when its own class tries to access its own protected directly..it cannot..
cause its protected is privat(ish) too...
but to a derived class its not private and can access directly hence :
class A <br />
{<br />
protected int x = 123;<br />
}<br />
<br />
class B : A <br />
{<br />
void F() <br />
{<br />
A a = new A(); <br />
B b = new B(); <br />
a.x = 10;
b.x = 10;
}<br />
}<br />
i got it right???
P.S : tks for the advice Mr.Jeff..;)
Have a Super Blessed Day!
-------------------------
For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.
2 Timothy 1:7
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."
John 3:16
"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expet."
Luke 12:40
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Regards,
I have two important questions, I would be thankfull some buddy kindly replies me:
1. When starting a UserControl library project, code generated by VS.NET doesn't contain a constructor overload that gets an IContainer parameter so that the host form can add it to its 'components' property collection at instantiation time. why is that and in situation like this how these controls will be added to host's components collection? while we know any UserControl is a component too.
2. I wan't a complete example of how to implement a correct Dispose mathed when there are other components' instances in current class and this clas itself will be instantiated on other class, and after we call all nested components' Dispose method(), should we set their instances to null too?
Thanks
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"Art happens when you least expect it"
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Hi , i know i can enable xp themes on winforms gui in .net 1.1 with some command.
and i also know that i can enable themes if i include a manifest in .net 1.0 and 1.1.
but how can i enable themes for a control via code in 1.0??
NOTE: i dont want to DRAW the control myself , i just want to enable xp themes on scrollbars for a customcontrol via code
//Roger
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You can't do it through code without drawing everything yourself in 1.0 - you can use a manifest file, however, either with the same filename as your app with ".manifest" appended, or as an embedded resource (Win32 resource, NOT .NET embedded resource). See my article at http://www.codeproject.com/csharp/dotnetvisualstyles.asp[^] for more information.
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so .net 1.1 uses black magic to enable the xp themes?
surely there must be some api call(s) to enable the styles..
//Roger
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No, it doesn't use "black magic". The concept is simple and could be found by reading the docs for the Theme API. The manifest file (with appropriate sections) redirects any calls to a file (in this case, comctl32.dll) to a side-by-side assembly. .NET 1.1 requires that you do this before starting the application (Application.Run) because it uses a manifest file called XPThemes.manifest (in the .NET 1.1 runtime directory) to accomplish the same thing.
This is the only way to do it in 1.0. If you don't believe me, MSDN has a couple articles outlining the same thing.
"Magic" is the art of misdirection. Theming is the art of redirection. It's all in the documentation for the Theme API.
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