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Mark Salsbery7-Nov-07 7:00

Mark Salsbery

7-Nov-07 7:00

Rage wrote:
I thought processes would have their own memory space, how come I can "exchange" data like this ?

You've only mentioned one process. DLLs are not processes -
they are mapped into a process' memory space.

This is truly DLL hell, but it seems like it could have been avoided.

A true "common" dll should be just that - common. Why is there more
than one version, in more than one place?

Mark

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JudyL_MD7-Nov-07 10:35

JudyL_MD

7-Nov-07 10:35

Rage wrote:
I thought processes would have their own memory space, how come I can "exchange" data like this ? How can I avoid that ?

As Mark said, they do have unique memory spaces. You only have one app, therefore only one process space. Your problem is that you've managed to get two DLLs with the same names and the same entry points loaded into the same process space. What's a poor OS to do? I'm not surprised it's confused.

The "correct" solution to this is to have one and only one copy of your DLL (version 2.1) on the system (in system32 preferably) and to maintain support for version 1.0 inside your 2.1 DLL by using new names for functions that have changed or been added since 1.0. You know, like all those FunctionNameEx routines in the windows DLLs.

If you have functions with the same names that do different things in your two versions on an existing system, and the two plugin DLLs depend on the different functioning of the same-named functions and are trying to find a fix without making a coding change, IMHO you are up the proverbial creek without the proverbial paddle. You've got to resolve the ambiguity of which DLL / which function is which and I can't see a solution without a code change.

However, your third-party has obviously come across the problem and will be expecting some fix from you so you have the perfect opportunity to make that code change and fix the root issue.

Judy

Rage7-Nov-07 21:47

Rage

7-Nov-07 21:47

Thanks.

I don't know who down-voted you; i find your comments rather accurate, and helpful.

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toxcct7-Nov-07 23:08

toxcct

7-Nov-07 23:08

just for the info, it is deprecated to put applicative DLLs into the system32 DLL. this folder is dedicated to the system itself. to place his common.dll file, he should create a common/ folder into his Program Files installation folder to place any shared components and libraries there.

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Nelek7-Nov-07 23:49

Nelek

7-Nov-07 23:49

I am facing now with this part of the project. I have put all the files in the same directory (there are 2 exe, 3 dll, 3 txt, 1 ini, 1 lib, 1 h) (although I think the .lib and the .h are not really needed once compiled and working)

With so few files... Should I create different directories?

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toxcct8-Nov-07 1:45

toxcct

8-Nov-07 1:45

don't confuse the installation paths, with the source code paths.

i used to have my projects organized like this:
source files organized by separating objects layer, data access layer, computing layer and presentation layer. all these in a root folder called src/.
when i compile, the binaries are generated into a bin/ folder (at the same level that src/), and the extra lib files are written in a lib/ folder.
when i have a multiprojects solution, (mainly one or more dlls + one or more exes), i let the .h files of the dlls in their original place, and configure the dependant projects to point there.

once everything is compiled, I install my applications in program files/a_name_for_the_app/...

in the case of the OP, he as several dlls (lets say, used by several exes), which uses a common dll. he could have organized it like this :

program files/
  |_ the apps/
       |_ app1/
       |    |_ app1.exe
       |    |_ app1.dll
       |_ app2/
       |    |_ app2.exe
       |    |_ app2.dll
       |_ common/
            |_ common.dll

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CAPICOM

Jim Crafton7-Nov-07 4:49

Jim Crafton

7-Nov-07 4:49

Does anyone know if the CAPICOM API comes default with Windows? The MSDN pages seem to say that it's part of most current Windows installs:

Redistributable	

Requires CAPICOM 2.0 or later on Windows Server 2003, Windows XP, 
Windows Me, Windows 2000 Server SP3 and later, 
Windows 2000 Professional SP3 and later, Windows NT Server 4.0 SP6a, 
and Windows 98.

Redistributable	

Requires Internet Explorer 6 SP1 or later on Windows 98.

DLL	

Requires Capicom.dll.

That would suggest, to me at least, that most computers have it. However I searched for Capicom.dll on my machine (windows XP SP2, up to date with patches) and it wasn't there.

Is this something you have to manually install?

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Re: CAPICOM

led mike7-Nov-07 5:07

New appended menu items are disabled [modified]

7-Nov-07 5:07

Jim Crafton wrote:
That would suggest, to me at least, that most computers have it.

I think it just as likely says the opposite.

Requires CAPICOM 2.0 or later on

Is saying that on those OSs [whatever] requires CAPICOM. The logical reason for saying that is because it's not there by default.

Re: CAPICOM

Jim Crafton7-Nov-07 5:36

Jim Crafton

7-Nov-07 5:36

OK. I looked a little more and it does appear that it's an optional add on. So it would appear that if you don't want to be bothered with installing anything, then you either use the .NEt API's or the raw Crypto API.

followait7-Nov-07 3:49

followait

7-Nov-07 3:49

New appended menu items are disabled, though I've used MF_ENALBED.

What I want to do is like this:

Get strings from the database, then append menu items using these strings.
When I select the string in the menu, I can get the string when processing the command. In fact it is simple, but I think MFC makes it harder. Any easy way there? Thanks very much.

-- modified at 20:05 Wednesday 7th November, 2007

led mike7-Nov-07 4:19

7-Nov-07 4:19

followait wrote:
though I've used MF_ENALBED

how? We don't know what you did if you don't post some relevant code.

followait wrote:
Any easy way there?

I have no idea what you would consider "easier" ... maybe this [^]that I found hidden in the documentation

David Crow7-Nov-07 4:26

David Crow

7-Nov-07 4:26

led mike wrote:
I have no idea what you would consider "easier" ... maybe this [^]that I found hidden in the documentation

Yeah, but that's not fair, Mike. You actually had to search for that, which takes time and effort. Hardly something that is considered easy.

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led mike7-Nov-07 5:04

7-Nov-07 5:04

DavidCrow wrote:
Hardly something that is considered easy.

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David Crow7-Nov-07 5:10

David Crow

7-Nov-07 5:10

led mike wrote:
aaaaaarrrrrrrrggghhhhh

You've got the pirate sounds down pat. Now let's see how you fare at the fishing part.

led mike7-Nov-07 5:27

7-Nov-07 5:27

DavidCrow wrote:
Now let's see how you fare at the fishing part.

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Mark Salsbery7-Nov-07 7:07

Mark Salsbery

7-Nov-07 7:07

Arrr...thar be good fishin at the mcds this fine day...arrrr.

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led mike7-Nov-07 7:49

7-Nov-07 7:49

I don't know about "good" but there seem to be plenty of flounders around today.

Mark Salsbery7-Nov-07 7:10

Mark Salsbery

7-Nov-07 7:10

I'm guessing MFC is "helping" you by disabling menu items that there's no
command handler (or enabler) for.

Mark

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Hamid_RT7-Nov-07 17:39

Hamid_RT

7-Nov-07 17:39

Did you declare any event for these items?