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Off the top of my head, I wonder if it can't handle adding a form like that. Try putting the form around the empty div.
It would help if I knew what the runtime error was though. 
Paul
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Paul Riley wrote:
Off the top of my head, I wonder if it can't handle adding a form like that. Try putting the form around the empty div.
Your analysis is correct Dr. Riley  Works now, although IE says syntax error.. It works like it should.
Paul Riley wrote:
It would help if I knew what the runtime error was though.
The error was: unknown runtime error
Have a look at http://closmalverne.co.za/test.htm[^]
. Thats a static dump of what gets generated so far, no links work, reply and send button has only has visual effects. Problem when I click Reply.
What do think so far? I still need to do alot of trimming on the ASP.NET generated controls. I also notice that sometimes those "borrowed" gif's dont load, although, rite click, show picture brings them up, any suggestions?
Cheers
Give them a chance! Do it for the kittens, dear God, the kittens!
As seen on MS File Transfer: Please enter an integer between 1 and 2.
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leppie wrote:
The error was: unknown runtime error
I stand corrected, it wouldn't have helped
leppie wrote:
What do think so far?
Very nice! Good to see what I'm working on 
Paul
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Paul Riley wrote:
Very nice! Good to see what I'm working on
Feel like doing a back end as well?
At least the design bit is almost done, just a few more scripts, especially the threadtracking function(TM) , basically I want when you click a "child" post, all the "parent" posts are displayed as well, so the thread context can be followed by the reader with more ease.
Now comes the "fun" part putting some friggin logic in place. I have never done a messageboard and although i have ideas, there some big holes in my original plan...
O yes, that syntax error I get is on this line:
elm.innerHTML = TABLESTART + TEXTAREA + FORMEND + SEND + QUOTE + CLEAR + TABLEEND;
or when I assign all those to a var and assign the var , I get they syntax error too. I cant find anything wrong...does the problem lie in one of those other var's?
Give them a chance! Do it for the kittens, dear God, the kittens!
As seen on MS File Transfer: Please enter an integer between 1 and 2.
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leppie wrote:
Feel like doing a back end as well?
Hey, I'm here, I'll help out where I can. 
leppie wrote:
I have never done a messageboard and although i have ideas, there some big holes in my original plan...
Do you want me to give you a really cool idea that I've only ever seen once in a message board? (which sadly was hosted by an ISP that shut down this year after a denial of service attack)
leppie wrote:
O yes, that syntax error I get is on this line:
elm.innerHTML = TABLESTART + TEXTAREA + FORMEND + SEND + QUOTE + CLEAR + TABLEEND;
I didn't get a syntax error! I thought you must have fixed it. What do you do to make it happen?
Paul
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Paul Riley wrote:
Do you want me to give you a really cool idea that I've only ever seen once in a message board?
SUre Shoot!
Paul Riley wrote:
I didn't get a syntax error! I thought you must have fixed it. What do you do to make it happen?
When you click [reply] to open the reply textarea . It doesnt happen on the [Send] "button" though....
Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.
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leppie wrote:
SUre Shoot!
Okay, this message board had a three way interface: email, newsfeed, webboard.
When it sent out an email (with the full text included), you could reply to that message and it would add the reply to the webboard. How did it thread them? Well, the message number that was being replied to was part of the reply-to address.
Everything on the webboard was replicated on the newsfeed and everything added to the newsfeed was mirrored on the webboard.
So you could either go to the webboard all the time, or you could sign up to sections that were of interest and then do the whole thing through email, or you could use a standard newsreader to operate the whole webboard.
Very cool. If you could pull that off (and I don't think it would be as hard as it sounds) somewhere down the line... THEN I'll be impressed
leppie wrote:
When you click [reply] to open the reply textarea .
Just tried again to be sure and I'm still not getting an error  . Works fine for me.
Paul
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Paul Riley wrote:
Very cool. If you could pull that off (and I don't think it would be as hard as it sounds) somewhere down the line... THEN I'll be impressed
Cool idea, but that will require learning some of how .NET integrates with IIS SMTP on receiving mail...I have an old ASP book (unread of course) nearby, I'll have a look some time, I noted something in there when I scanned it. After that it should be a breeze 
Just one problem though, who is gonna pay for all the STMP bandwidth?
Paul Riley wrote:
Just tried again to be sure and I'm still not getting an error . Works fine for me.
OK, I'm using IE 6 on WinXP Pro. I tried it off site too, though it mite be something to do with IIS. Still have that problem.
Syntax error, Line 2 Char 1 Code 0 when I click reply and the innerHTML assignment takes place....
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leppie wrote:
Cool idea, but that will require learning some of how .NET integrates with IIS SMTP on receiving mail
Of course. Like you, I'm pretty sure it can be done, just not how exactly. This is all a little ways down the line though.
leppie wrote:
Just one problem though, who is gonna pay for all the STMP bandwidth?
I have a pretty good idea as to someone who would gladly host it for testing purposes (and provide news server space) in return for later usage (for a non-profit organisation). If you ever get that far, give me a shout.
leppie wrote:
OK, I'm using IE 6 on WinXP Pro.
So am I. How very bizarre is that?
I'm looking for a problem but I just don't see it.
Paul
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Paul Riley wrote:
I have a pretty good idea as to someone who would gladly host it for testing purposes (and provide news server space) in return for later usage (for a non-profit organisation). If you ever get that far, give me a shout.
That could nice , thanx It will take sometime though still. Does it have ASP.NET /SQL? Infact, I actually have a server to host on, but I'm busy with a site needing to go on that! I'll see once I get a working local model...
Weird error that, syntax error, I'm sure it has to do with all the crap I'm pumping in there
CHeers
PS: I feel sorry for the poor 800 x 600 crowd If we continue this thread any longer they wont be able to follow it.
Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.
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leppie wrote:
That could nice , thanx It will take sometime though still.
Absolutely. I was considering trying to patch the free MS .NET Forum to do it but I'm at least 4 months away from having time to do that.
leppie wrote:
Does it have ASP.NET /SQL?
ASP.NET and ODBC to Access 2000... MSDE is a possibility we haven't really examined yet. Anything that costs is out.
leppie wrote:
Weird error that, syntax error,
I've looked and looked til my head hurts, I'm just not seeing it.
leppie wrote:
PS: I feel sorry for the poor 800 x 600 crowd If we continue this thread any longer they wont be able to follow it.
Serves 'em right
But seriously, maybe you need a new thread on this Syntax error, see if anyone else can spot it. I doubt many people are watching us here any more, except true saddos like me and Paul W.
Paul
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Paul Riley wrote:
Absolutely. I was considering trying to patch the free MS .NET Forum to do it but I'm at least 4 months away from having time to do that.
It wouldnt even get past the installers depency check for me
Paul Riley wrote:
MSDE is a possibility we haven't really examined yet. Anything that costs is out.
Does that require licensing? I'm using that at the moment, Access is not really an option, a bit too limiting for my liking. FOr some reasons I always dig out mysterious ways off doing things, so I need flexability (Hooray .NET).
Paul Riley wrote:
I've looked and looked til my head hurts, I'm just not seeing it.
But you realised that 30 min before you posted this  And you still continue further
Get some sleep 
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leppie wrote:
It wouldnt even get past the installers depency check for me
No! Really? Well, that could be a problem 
leppie wrote:
Does [MSDE] require licensing?
Apparently not. I didn't really know a lot about it until I heard an argument at work about it the other week. We've always used ODBC and allowed the user to choose a database, but that accounts for a good 20% of development and bug fixing time, so the coders want to switch to MSDE because it's a free distributable and we can make sure everyone's using the same thing.
It's not happening yet but I suspect it will eventually.
leppie wrote:
Access is not really an option, a bit too limiting for my liking.
Yeah, Access is fine for what we're doing at the moment but I wouldn't fancy doing a message board (or anything that's going to prduce more than a couple of thousand records) with it.
leppie wrote:
But you realised that 30 min before you posted this
You don't think I'd let that beat me? Once I'm looking at a problem, I don't like to give up. I'd have had trouble sleeping if you hadn't come up with an answer last night
Paul
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I've been telling lies. I do get the syntax error after all, I just hadn't noticed it because I thought I had the dialog warning turned on.
Still haven't figured out what's causing it though 
Paul
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Paul Riley wrote:
Still haven't figured out what's causing it though
It was the CLEAR line! I had too many quotes or I was qouting the element not passing it.
It works now, but what a vague error message, that just put me completely off track!
Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.
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You jest?
So how did it come to Line 2, Char 1? That's what had me so confused. Daaaaammm!
Paul
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Paul Riley wrote:
So how did it come to Line 2, Char 1? That's what had me so confused. Daaaaammm
I think I have learnt in 3 days not to take JavaScript error messages seriously
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leppie wrote:
What do think so far?
Sorry I was offline doing Real Life Stuff when your question came on, but glad the others could help
I think your example looks really good. I especially love the way you can reply to a post ON THE PAGE instead of having to go to another page.
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Paul Watson wrote:
Sorry I was offline doing Real Life Stuff when your question came on, but glad the others could help
Now that my free GPRS has ended, I only have offpeak times to be online, but they talking about ADSL in the Cape maybe as early as December  At least I have 128k ISDN to keep me happy untill then...
Paul Watson wrote:
I think your example looks really good. I especially love the way you can reply to a post ON THE PAGE instead of having to go to another page.
I heard that David Wulff did that too in his forums, but I never looked  I thought it would probably be easy enough...maybe I should have a look
Tell me Paul, can I POST data to the server without having to refresh the page? Sort of like a "quick" reply? Seeing that the page is eating up alot of bandwidth for formatting, I'm trying to cut down on extra bandwidth.
Cheers
Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.
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leppie wrote:
can I POST data to the server without having to refresh the page
Not sure if you can do this "directly" because it is contradictory to how the whole web-page/http model works, something HAS to go back to the server with the POST data.
But there are ways to do it indirectly, though they are a bit complicated. One is to have a "hidden" IFrame on the page which contains a FORM element with the same FORM elements as the FORM you want to submit. So when the user clicks the "submit" button instead of that FORM being submitted it will send the element values to the IFrame FORM (using JavaScript client side) and then that FORM is submitted. You can then, like Leppie did, update the page DOM to include the new reply. The main problem with this is that you will have countless validation problems which are normally done on the server side. For instance duplicate posts, how do you handle that? Server side it is easy, but client side would be a major pain.
All in all it can be done but it is more effort than it is worth and it just goes against the web-page/http model really.
leppie wrote:
Seeing that the page is eating up alot of bandwidth for formatting, I'm trying to cut down on extra bandwidth.
Care to share the page? Maybe I can offer up some tips on cutting down the formatting code and the footprint of the page.
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Paul Watson wrote:
But there are ways to do it indirectly, though they are a bit complicated.
Thanx , I understand the logic
Paul Watson wrote:
For instance duplicate posts, how do you handle that? Server side it is easy, but client side would be a major pain.
Maybe pop up an alert from the "hidden" frame? I havent even got around to making a database  Still trying to get the model in my brain (I cant figure out how UML works) once its there it will stick
Paul Watson wrote:
Care to share the page? Maybe I can offer up some tips on cutting down the formatting code and the footprint of the page.
Sure once its done, this is really a side project to a project I'm doing at the moment and although it wont need a forum (i would be nice though) , it will need a member system, so I thought I will 2 birds with one stone while I get up to scratch with HTML and what it can do.
Paul Watson wrote:
You can then, like Leppie did, update the page DOM to include the new reply.
Who is this leppie oke you're talking about? too many ![Beer | [beer]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/beer.gif) 's?
Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.
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leppie wrote:
Who is this leppie oke you're talking about? too many 's?
  
Sorry about that, oke. I had one too many Bertram's VO Brandy glasses earlier and for some odd reason thought while replying to you that leppie and you were different people...
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Paul Watson wrote:
I had one too many Bertram's VO Brandy glasses earlier
That inspired a sip from my bottle of KWV 5Year that has been on my desk for odd year now Mind you its allmost finished.
Drinking only makes you dumb! And dumbness leads to mistakes!
Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, when you do criticize him, you'll be a mile away and have his shoes.
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leppie wrote:
Drinking only makes you dumb! And dumbness leads to mistakes!
Ai but by god it feels good getting dumb...
Ok I am off home, far too late to be at the office Chow
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Paul Watson wrote:
Ai but by god it feels good getting dumb...
Nah, been there done that, got the T-shirt!
Paul Watson wrote:
Ok I am off home, far too late to be at the office
Now thats SAD! Arent you scared someone sees you? Then again it is 3AM, who will see you?
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