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darkelv wrote: Just curious, what's her race?
Jumper is everywhere in Singapore, we call it job hopper here. They are everywhere here because one reason: the companies are not bothered that they are job hop and still hire them. By the way, it's the way to do if you want your salary increase faster than GST.
Some job agents here, yeah, they aren't professional at any level, at all. Some of them, when they got a position, just goes to their company's database and mass mail to everyone, without even look at your resume.
This particular recruiter is a Filipino by blood, much like myself (except that I'm heavily Americanized). Btw, What's GST? And what's it like living in Singapore? Are they really that strict? And how's the competition in the developer job market?
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Goods & Service Tax, or VAT in some country.
Well, living standard in Singapore is rather high, though not as high as Tokyo and Hong Kong. The pace is slight behind Tokyo and HK too, and it's not as dense as those 2 cities. The island is small, so it's convenient to go anywhere, the con side is not a lot of places to go  . The government agencies are highly digitized and so very efficient.
Not sure in which area do you mean by strict.
Right now it's still employee's market, looks like the demand for developer/system analyst/team lead levels is still very strong, I still get a lot of queries on those jobs.
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The problem is that you are not responsible for paying the consultants fee. The employer is. Therefore, they won't piss off the employer, but may irritate the hell out of any potential candidates.
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Colin Angus Mackay wrote: The problem is that you are not responsible for paying the consultants fee. The employer is. Therefore, they won't piss off the employer, but may irritate the hell out of any potential candidates.
The employer might be responsible for the consultant's fee, but since the job market in Singapore is an employee's market, the competition for finding employees among recruiters is going to be very high, and it won't make it easier on this firm if they've got recruiters irritating the relatively low supply of qualified employees they're trying to hire. They have no legal obligations to be "nice" to prospective hires, but if they keep offending each one that comes along, there won't be any employers to pay them the consultant fee for finding good talent since no employee would want to be recruited through them.
Some people call it the "golden rule", but I call it the karma of business: the better you treat people, the higher your profits will be in the long run.
modified on Saturday, April 5, 2008 6:30 PM
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Philip Laureano wrote: but if they keep offending each one that comes along, there won't be any employers to pay them the consultant fee for finding good talent since no employee would want to be recruited through them.
True, but it will take longer for the employer to figure out that they need to ditch a certain recruitment agency and they probably won't know why.
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Well, he is responsible of the consultant getting paid. 
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 . Love it, thanks for posting.
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"And remember, its "their", not thier"
Actually, it's "they're"
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Whoops. I was too busy correcting her spelling to notice. Touche. 
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Grammar Nazis such as you are so annoying. While I agree, to an extend, that spelling is quite important if you are to be making a living as a recruiter, you forget that not everyone is native English speaker.
Even you, who obviously fancy yourself a speller, write :
Now run a long, little "associate" consultant, before you get yourself into trouble for your "charming" recruiting skills.
Maybe you meant to write:
Now run along, little "associate" consultant, before you get yourself in trouble for your "charming" recruitment skills.
That being said, I do share your frustration with this particular headhunter. You did a fine thing, emailing headquarters.
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VentsyV wrote: Grammar Nazis such as you are so annoying. While I agree, to an extend, that spelling is quite important if you are to be making a living as a recruiter, you forget that not everyone is native English speaker.
I merely became a "Grammar Nazi" since I knew it would annoy the recruiter, and I'm also well aware that not everyone is a native English speaker. If it were any other circumstance, I probably wouldn't care how she wrote or spoke English. Since she crossed the line, however, the least she deserved was a good verbal bashing.
VentsyV wrote: That being said, I do share your frustration with this particular headhunter. You did a fine thing, emailing headquarters.
Thanks
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I would have done the same. When I read the first few lines I thought it was some kind of joke and then it got worse.
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Open this below link in Firefox and look at the top of the page!
click[^]
"hi, I am explorer.exe. sometimes when you are doing anything at all, I will just freeze for ten minutes. All of my brother and sister windows will also freeze, because they are sad for me. Maybe we will come back, maybe not, it will be a surprise!"
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its in the HTML. Someone should really learn how to comment HTML correctly.
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leppie wrote: Someone should really learn how to comment HTML correctly.
Yeah, it is not that hard 
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Sweet. SQL Injection attack anyone?
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How? It's server side code being rendered to the client so there's no attack vector there.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: How? It's server side code being rendered to the client so there's no attack vector there.
True - but you've now seen the name of tables, and it's obvious that Stored Procs aren't being used. As soon as you find an input form, the attack surface has been opened up.
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Not as bad as one I discovered recently: Database connection strings stored in a publicly accessible txt file coupled with request strings being completely unvalidated before being appended to various SQL queries. Had a call from the client one day asking if it was us that created the 'slartibartfast' table. It turned out to be some bloke on the other side of the world having a bit of fun. Reminds me of my favourite XKCD[^].
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The question is, did they know who Slartibartfast was?
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Can people be so dumb? I would not be surprised if they put the FTP credentials of the website as a comment in the index.html under the pretext of ease of maintenance.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: SQL Injection attack anyone?
Totally. Think of any good ones?
"The clue train passed his station without stopping." - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Paul Conrad wrote: Totally. Think of any good ones?
 It does sound a bit "Capture the flag"
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