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"I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon
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Good one, fruitcake.
I'm going to become rich when I create a device that allows me to punch people in the face over the internet.
"If an Indian asked a programming question in the forest, would it still be urgent?" - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Justin Perez wrote: Good one, fruitcake.
At least I get the joke
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leppie wrote: At least I get the joke
Oh good. I was actually thinking everyone might miss the reference from the OP
I'm going to become rich when I create a device that allows me to punch people in the face over the internet.
"If an Indian asked a programming question in the forest, would it still be urgent?" - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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is that a joke
indians are good programmers
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sammyamma wrote: is that a joke
indians are good programmers
All Indians? We've come across our fair share of duffers here on Code Project.
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The quote in my sig? Yes, the guy who made the comment made it as a joke. The joke isn't about all Indians. Take a look around the forums for a day or 2 and you will see that there are some bad apples.
I'm going to become rich when I create a device that allows me to punch people in the face over the internet.
"If an Indian asked a programming question in the forest, would it still be urgent?" - John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Brainware Error - reboot required.
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This reminds me of my first CS class back in the 70s. The professor gave us an assignment to parse free form numeric input strings. Any valid number was fair game, integers, floats, exponents, etc. We all shuffled off to the ribbonless keypunch machines to enter our creations (without the assistance of the interweb and ‘I needs codes now. Urgent’ forums). A week later we returned to class each with massive stacks of FORTRAN code and bruised egos as nobody was able to get it to work for all cases.
He then presented his solution using an FSA and a few lines of code. After the initial shock and urge to shove said deck of cards down the professors throat, it turned out to be a great lesson on the power of table driven programs.
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As some guy wrote in commentaries:
AVF wrote: I'm sorry, but that rocks. It may not be the kind of code you want in production, but from a mathematical/CS point of view, it's just cool.
Greetings - Gajatko
Portable.NET is part of DotGNU, a project to build a complete Free Software replacement for .NET - a system that truly belongs to the developers.
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wrote: thinking less lines is faster
Geeze, we leave it up to the compiler to optimize stuff.
"I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon
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Paul Conrad wrote: Geeze, we leave it up to the compiler to optimize stuff.
Of course, the less lines you write, the easier it is for the compiler to optimize the code
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At least someone here has a hammer he *really* knows how to use. And obviously he has no trouble to find enough nails for it...
Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all. Douglas Adams, "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency"
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In this semester I've got a new subject: "Object-oriented programming".
* We learn how to bypass Visual C++ 6.0 compiler bugs (yes we use it).
* To show good OOP practices, we are told that a Student class should contain a non-static Write method which does not take any arguments. This method should write content of all Student objects from an array (stored as a global variable) to a file with a hard-coded name "student.bz" in a very plain text format.
* All class names must definitely begin with 'C' and structures with 'T'.
* Public members like 'fil' (FileName), 'st' (Student) or 'c' (Count) are perfectly o.k. and there is no need to comment them anywhere.
* Finally, our knowledge is tested by writing a code snippet on a sheet of paper. You missed a semicolon or an #include directive -- sorry you fail.
Sweet.
Greetings - Gajatko
Portable.NET is part of DotGNU, a project to build a complete Free Software replacement for .NET - a system that truly belongs to the developers.
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What does your post have anything to do with Coding Horrors?
"I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon
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Visual C++ 6.0 compiler bugs (yes we use it).
maybe this.
"Love thy neighbor....................
..Whenever your marriage in in trouble"
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Well, using methods like fil and st would constitute a coding horror. I guess this one fits.
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Yes, those would definitely be horrific
"I guess it's what separates the professionals from the drag and drop, girly wirly, namby pamby, wishy washy, can't code for crap types." - Pete O'Hanlon
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It's the same with my university. They teach us horrible coding style and rely on our future employers to fix the mess in out heads.
Luckily nobody studies informatics without any coding experience. I don't want to know how such a poor guy would write code later on...
Anyway, you are well off with C++. We had to write Java and Pascal snippets on paper.
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This statement is false.
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I wouldn't say writing first-year exams on paper is necessarily a bad thing. It takes away auto-correct, Intellisense, reference material. It takes away the option of trial-and-error coding.
I wrote all my C++ exams except the final one on paper.
As for the rest... get that bloke fired. Please. I don't want to have anyone following a coding style like that to ever come near me.
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DevSolar wrote: It takes away auto-correct, Intellisense, reference material. It takes away the option of trial-and-error coding.
I agree, however in my opinion a paper exam is good for theroetical-ideological questions or block diagrams, not for implementation. Maybe the first one, when we are supposed to be aware of language syntax is ok. But it seems that all my future exams will look like this, as it's the only way to test programming abilites of a ~200 men group (+8 girls). Maybe the next generation of students will finally have a spoj.pl- or topcoder.com-like system. I'd like that.
Greetings - Gajatko
Portable.NET is part of DotGNU, a project to build a complete Free Software replacement for .NET - a system that truly belongs to the developers.
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I don't agree. I learned most of what i know by reading all the intellisense methods + documentation of objects, and without trial and error noone would ever be a coder. That said, i used C# and read object documentation as a hobby...
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And that's why I state that exams should verify a knowledge which cannot be gained from documentation.
"Hey, there is ain't knowledge which wouldn't be in documentation" you say. Huh, then ask a "senior programmist" and he'll give you a 30-min speech on the topic: "Why you should be on my lectures instead of reading damn stupid books not written by me or surfing the Internet.". Well, I think he'll be right in most cases.
Greetings - Gajatko
Portable.NET is part of DotGNU, a project to build a complete Free Software replacement for .NET - a system that truly belongs to the developers.
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Heh, I do about the same.
Especially since the Microsoft documentation is a bad joke as it doesn't actually contain any more information than the tooltips in VS.
And the vast majority of articles on websites like this one or in books, which aren't about the basics of the basics, rely too much on the context.
If you want to know more about class x, the articles usually don't provide much information on the general usage and behavior but only in the specific context of the example, which barely ever has the slight similarity to do with what you need it for.
Also, the vast majority of all programming exams consist of scribbling on paper.
If not, they usually consist of doing a project and sending in the result.
Paper is okay, at least if the reviewer isn't too strict.
Subtracting too many points for missing semicolons and such is just stupid.
Anyway, the topic really belongs here. Sounds like college/University the creator attends teaches a lot of bad practices.
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