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I already installed silverlight on one of my systems which make my fire fox browser crash every time I try to open sites that using silverlight for streaming videos which never notice with any flash version. another issue each version of sliverlight not compatible with older one and some time when you enter sites (partners or show case of silverlight) even if silverlight installed it ask you to download it especially with Firefox.
so I doubt in near future I got any plans to use silverlight for my clients or install it because Flash do every thing user wants and almost whole world use it. who knows what future hide for us with silverlight.
Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it
modified on Monday, July 28, 2008 4:21 AM
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there's no space between 'silver' and 'light'..
life is study!!!
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I mean has anyone seen anything done in SilverLight that wasn't part of Microsoft's promotion or the result some partner's experimentation or technology demonstration?
I hate to rain on the parade, but I think end users are comfortable with Flash and there isn't anything that users want to do that can't be done (or isn't already being done) with Flash. Until the general user population decides that there's some feature they need that Flash doesn't do, developers will have a hard time persuading people to take it up, and without take-up, developers won't spend time and resources producing SilverLight apps.
This feels like Microsoft casting around for a market they don't already rule to see if they can muscle in. Sure, it may be a great product, and it may offer developers easy integration with Visual Studio and other (Microsoft) tools, but it's too much of a "me too" product.
[This is me putting on my flame-proof suit and getting ready for the flood of responses telling me what killer feature is missing from Flash and why SilverLight is the answer to all ills.]
Brian
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It's what MS seem to do.. Create products that are very similar to existing products and try to get a dominant market share; think of the Zune, or Live Search for example, and this is another one. Don't get me wrong, they have some good ideas themselves, like Surfaces, but yes you're right.. Flash is good enough and almost everyone has it.. To install Silverlight is well, a bit annoying :s
--Perspx
"When programming in Visual Basic, you can always know whether a given program will become stuck in a loop and never halt. The answer is 'yes'." - Uncyclopedia
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I think silverlight is just activeX done right, and updated for .Net and WPF.
If you were going to learn Flash or Silverlight, and ignoring the installed base, then I cant see anywhere that flash is better.
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ITV in the UK use it for their catchup service (their version of the BBC's IPlayer). Its quite buggy and doesn't work in FF3. Also ITV serve ads in the program breaks and if you're unlucky you can get the same ad 10 times in a row before it shows the actually show you are trying to watch.
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wwe.com uses it
life is study!!!
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MLB.com, NBA.com, and NBC Olympics sites are all using SilverLight to stream their videos.
Although I have to admit that I have not done any sites yet, I do see 2 advantages for SilverLight. First, video streaming is much more efficient, and will require fewer servers to handle larger numbers of users. Second, Microsoft's ability to separate coders and stylists with separate development products (Visual Studio and Expression Blend) will enable project teams to more efficiently develop sites. Web site designers will not need code to develop the site layout (for the most part), and code jockeys will not have to struggle with stylistic components and can concentrate on writing efficient and productive data-processing code. I realize many can where both hats, but they often become "jack of all trades and master of none". But specializing will lead to more efficient development.
Both of these advantages will drive adoption for business reasons (both result in reducing costs). Flash developers will not necessarily see any advantage to SilverLight, but the people responsible for the project budgets or operation costs will, and that will drive SilverLight's success.
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The learning curve in both WPF and Silverlight is far too steep. Microsoft should be producing tools that are much easier to use and build on what developers already know. Most examples out there are trivial. Most datbinding examples use xml whereas most real world apps have huge databases to contend with. Very few examples deal with the security issues.
Microsoft most definitely does not want anyone from the UK using their products. Why else would they charge UK users 58% more for the product. Read this article.
Also, given the technical complexities, one would think that developers need a little more encouragement. Blend 2 come with Visual Studio Standard, but most .NET developers will already have paid for VS Studio professional and no allowance has been made for the overlap in the Microsoft pricing or for those who already have MSDN subscriptions.
Finally, I think that there are some major security holes in the silverlight model which should have been addressed in the initial releases.
Micorsoft may be blowing their trumpets, but are doing very little to really encourage developers. We will see what happens in a few years, but for the moment they have not quite hit the nail on the head.
Sox
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The poll options seem to be using double quotes instead of apostrophes.
/ravi
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It is really irritating having to keep installing Silverlight when the versions change even slightly... it should update itself just like other Microsoft products.
You know, it really is a great technology, far better for developers than Flash, but if MS doesn't get their act together vis a vis deployment, Flash will continue to lead.
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Do you have Windows Update set to automatically install updates? Then Silverlight can be configured to check for updates automatically.
"Listen, and listen well. I really like the band N-Sync. My favorite member is Harpo. I think there's a Harpo. If not there should be. I will write their next hit, maybe 'A boom-boom chiky chiky boom-boom a boom-boom chiky chaka chaka cho cho.' By the way, you must beware of Betty's iron claw. They are sharp, and they hurt. And beware his song about big butts, he beats people up while he plays it! " - Master Tang (from Kung Pow: Enter the Fist)
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...CListCtrlLight. 
"Listen, and listen well. I really like the band N-Sync. My favorite member is Harpo. I think there's a Harpo. If not there should be. I will write their next hit, maybe 'A boom-boom chiky chiky boom-boom a boom-boom chiky chaka chaka cho cho.' By the way, you must beware of Betty's iron claw. They are sharp, and they hurt. And beware his song about big butts, he beats people up while he plays it! " - Master Tang (from Kung Pow: Enter the Fist)
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The versions 0.9, 1.x, 2.0, ... are not compatible with each other... So even if I have installed a version, I may not be able to run a Silverlight-application.
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Signed in... website still says "you must sign in to vote". Is there a separate sign-in for voting?
Paul.
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I don't have it installed and I do not plan to do it
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I agree with that, especially when you've already got like 50 media playing software systems installed on the computer, taking up hundreds of Meg, and making the computer run slow......
The worst thing about the darkness is the light at the end - DX-MON
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Silverlight is not just a media player. All the cool stuff you can do in Flash, as well as all the productive stuff you can do in WPF and WinForms you can do now in the browser. Additionally, you now can run your .Net code (most of it) on Mac and Linux!
It totally expands your horizons!
Richard
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R2B2 wrote: Additionally, you now can run your .Net code (most of it) on Mac and Linux!
I would not want to run .Net code on my computer considering how buggy most of it is, not to mention the fact you can write viruses 10 times more easily using .Net..... oh and I keep my Ubuntu installation clean of Microsoft code, it tends to have a bad effect when running M$ code.
I can code up applications in Java, JavaScript and Flash if I really wanted to use this kind of content, I just see a buggy, fairly un-tested product from M$ and I just see more content that can't fit down my 2Mb/s pipeline as it is just too intensive.
R2B2 wrote: All the cool stuff you can do in Flash, as well as all the productive stuff you can do in WPF and WinForms you can do now in the browser.
I also wouldn't want to run WinForms code and WPF code on my computer without having read reviews and descriptions for the product first, this is one of the most common ways people get viruses. (Running stuff they have no idea what it does and how good it is)
The worst thing about the darkness is the light at the end - DX-MON
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The misuse/abuse of something is not a valid arguement against the use of anything. A hammer can be used to build a house, or to tear it down. It is what you do with it.
To me, Silverlight is another tool that I can use to create apps. It allows me to have a .Net framework client so I can work with data feeds (XML not video/audio) in a type-save manner as well as have a rich architecture for displaying it.
Silverlight uses the same laguages and base classes that I am currently using, so I don't have to relearn everything. If Java and Flash are what work fastest for you, great. My point is that Silverlight is more than just videos. Silverlight actually enables you to REDUCE the traffic between you and the server and gives you the tools to create compelling interfaces.
My 2 cents,
Richard
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I was trying to point out that with every new piece of technology comes dangers, and the dangers with such powerful APIs being exposed over the web, to me, out-way the benefits as a website using silver-light can bypass my web-browsers security features and install viruses to my computer without my consent, or download explicit images without my consent, and I would not even know, being how transparent you can make software with things like WinForms.
I do agree that it is a good piece of technology, I'm just saying that until it's been THOROUGHLY tested, and all holes created by exposing the deepest APIs of Windows to people on the web have been filled, I would not want to touch it because the risk associated with it is too high, even as a home user.
The worst thing about the darkness is the light at the end - DX-MON
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I agree it needs to be tested THOROUGHLY as well. I tend to be an early adopter. I respect your position. It is a very valid one. I more was resonding to the view that Silverlight is for videos only.
Richard
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Ok, understood. Though I still don't want another media-player for my computer (I see silverlight's primary purpose of that of a media system), what I want is a media player that combines all the formats of the current ones into 1 product, and for a relatively low cost, (I'm making a media player at the moment).
The worst thing about the darkness is the light at the end - DX-MON
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I dont have  it installed
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