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Do you code on sick days?

Survey period: 18 Jul 2022 to 25 Jul 2022

Some stay in bed, som binge watch TV. And some of us can't keep away from the keyboard

OptionVotes% 
If I can reach a keyboard and see the monitor, then I'm coding638.45
If I'm feeling mentally up for it, sometimes14819.84
If I'm not too sick and absolutely have to get some coding done648.58
Depends on how sick, depends on what I get to code19426.01
Only in emergencies10313.81
No way, never. I'm sick, I'm off the compiler.17423.32



 
GeneralIf I'm sick, my laptop only does Netflix. Pin
willichan19-Jul-22 12:17
professionalwillichan19-Jul-22 12:17 
GeneralRe: If I'm sick, my laptop only does Netflix. Pin
trønderen19-Jul-22 12:52
trønderen19-Jul-22 12:52 
GeneralRe: If I'm sick, my laptop only does Netflix. Pin
charlieg20-Jul-22 9:16
charlieg20-Jul-22 9:16 
GeneralWhat the heck is a "sick day"?? Pin
DerekT-P19-Jul-22 6:13
professionalDerekT-P19-Jul-22 6:13 
GeneralRe: What the heck is a "sick day"?? Pin
trønderen19-Jul-22 12:50
trønderen19-Jul-22 12:50 
GeneralRe: What the heck is a "sick day"?? Pin
DerekT-P20-Jul-22 0:25
professionalDerekT-P20-Jul-22 0:25 
GeneralRe: What the heck is a "sick day"?? Pin
Eddy Vluggen24-Jul-22 0:37
professionalEddy Vluggen24-Jul-22 0:37 
GeneralRe: What the heck is a "sick day"?? Pin
DerekT-P24-Jul-22 3:21
professionalDerekT-P24-Jul-22 3:21 
Hi Eddy. Your comments seem rather contradictory; first you "correct" me to talk about profit rather than "pay" (I actually meant the company won't get paid), but then use "quotes" around company, suggesting it's not a real company. And here is the nub of the issue that has stricken not just IT contracting but contracting as a whole in the UK for the past 20 years. As a freelancer working through a company, if HMRC (the UK tax authority) deem you to not be truly self-employed, but actually an employee of your client, then: Tax is charged on a flat 95% of your company income, REGARDLESS of costs: training, certification, accounting, travel, marketing, consumables, services, software - everything. That might be fair (though not in most cases). But despite being taxed like an employee, you don't get ANY employee benefits - sick pay, holiday pay, m/paternity pay etc. AND on top of that, you not only have to pay your own employEE National Insurance (just like anyone else), but your deemed employer will often charge the employER'S National Insurance, which they are now liable for, back the service provider via a cut in rates. (Google "IR35" if you want to know more, or see What is IR35?[^])

We in the UK have been struggling with this for over 20 years now. Personally I've made damn sure that my relationship with my client has NEVER looked like one of employment - I work using my own equipment from my own office when I choose, I subcontract some of the work out, I provide services to multiple clients at once, and I have even offered discount for prompt payment (something which an employee cannot do). Recently, however, HMRC have changed the rules (again) such that it is now the CLIENT that decides whether you're IN or OUT of the legislation. Clients being lazy, ignorant (of employee legislation) and risk averse tend to just issue blanket statements that their service providers are caught. This is one of the reasons why the UK has been hit harder than the rest of Europe by a shortage of lorry drivers. Self-employed lorry drivers now have, in most cases, to pay tax on 95% of their income - NOT their profits. There is thus little if anything left over to buy fuel, insurance, let alone put aside to buy their next lorry. They've left in droves (excuse the pun) and still the government can't see the stupidity of it.

Sore point? Yes it certainly is a sore point, even though I've always remained "outside" the rules. But if you think a one-person company is in some respect not a proper "company", then you're quite mistaken. Oh, and having other employees in the company doesn't necessarily make you less dependent on the person who normally provides your service, but may engender a false sense of security.
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GeneralNot feasible... Pin
PSU Steve19-Jul-22 4:18
professionalPSU Steve19-Jul-22 4:18 
GeneralNot possible Pin
peterkm19-Jul-22 0:59
peterkm19-Jul-22 0:59 
GeneralIt's sure nice being in Italy Pin
Lorenzo Bertolino19-Jul-22 0:07
professionalLorenzo Bertolino19-Jul-22 0:07 
GeneralRe: It's sure nice being in Italy Pin
CodeZombie6219-Jul-22 2:02
CodeZombie6219-Jul-22 2:02 
GeneralOnly in emergencies and if there is someone to double check Pin
Julian Ragan18-Jul-22 23:20
Julian Ragan18-Jul-22 23:20 
Generalsick and coding Pin
V.18-Jul-22 21:23
professionalV.18-Jul-22 21:23 
GeneralI wonder how... Pin
Marc Clifton18-Jul-22 13:25
mvaMarc Clifton18-Jul-22 13:25 
GeneralRe: I wonder how... Pin
trønderen18-Jul-22 14:09
trønderen18-Jul-22 14:09 
GeneralAs a kid Pin
Eddy Vluggen18-Jul-22 12:47
professionalEddy Vluggen18-Jul-22 12:47 
GeneralHell to the no! Pin
Erik Burd18-Jul-22 8:44
professionalErik Burd18-Jul-22 8:44 
GeneralNormally no... Pin
Zach Burnett18-Jul-22 4:45
Zach Burnett18-Jul-22 4:45 
GeneralRe: Normally no... Pin
obermd18-Jul-22 6:01
obermd18-Jul-22 6:01 
GeneralRe: Normally no... Pin
Zach Burnett18-Jul-22 7:01
Zach Burnett18-Jul-22 7:01 
GeneralReally depend on how sick I feel. Pin
OriginalGriff18-Jul-22 0:56
mveOriginalGriff18-Jul-22 0:56 
GeneralMaybe ... Pin
Amarnath S18-Jul-22 0:52
professionalAmarnath S18-Jul-22 0:52 
GeneralRe: Maybe ... Pin
Nelek19-Jul-22 10:47
protectorNelek19-Jul-22 10:47 
GeneralRe: Maybe ... Pin
Amarnath S20-Jul-22 1:52
professionalAmarnath S20-Jul-22 1:52 

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