Bugs and Suggestions

28-Aug-18 9:12

First of all... thanks, it is now working.

Pity is... it seems it is not working as it should (or at least as I consider it should to be really useful)

1) If a platinum author publishes without moderation it is said: Published by Editor or trusted author. OK
2) If a non-platinum writer publishes through moderation it is said: Published by [nicks 1 to 5]. OK
3) If a non-platinum writer gets edited by the CP-Staff, it is said: Published by editor or trusted author. OK, but in my opinion not useful.
4) This blog example[^] is published, there is no versions history and the author is by far under the limit to avoid moderation by himself (1,3k total). It is said: Approved by editor or trusted author. Maybe a problem with the type blog?
5) This article A Working TCP Client and Server With SSL[^] is from an author without enough reputation to avoid moderation (9k total) has 25 versions (CP-Staff editions were 23, 15, 11, 8 and 6) but it is said: approved by editor or trusted writer. So it seems that the highest status received in the past remains active for the rest.

In an example of #2 I saw high rep members as approvers, which means for me that the "approved author" only refers to the one publishing and not to the one voting.

The biggest problem and reason for this suggestion is and has always been to try to stop systematical approvers that click on OK for articles that are spam, very low quality, have serious format problems and similar things. Which means, if we can't really see who is approving every version, then it brings no additional value.

CP-Editors are hard workers (thank you and kudos for it), but if they do an edition with the best intentions, then we can't use the information anymore, because the articles get approved by "editor" and the status remain for future updates as in #5

I think that the best would be to save the "published by" within the versions history (if possible) and...
- if CP-Staff edits an article in moderation and is published for the 1st time, then "approved by editor or trusted author" as now,
but
- if the article was already published then keep the last "approved by" list (as a kind of "ghost" editor)... that would do the job.

[Edit] Typos corrected

M.D.V.

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modified 28-Aug-18 18:14pm.

Wendelius28-Aug-18 9:26

Wendelius

28-Aug-18 9:26

To add to the comprehensive list, looking the revision history over here: Data Visualization for BI: How to Design Layouts for .NET Financial Reports . All revisions by Sean Confused | :confused:

Probably at least the first revision should be by the original author.

Nelek28-Aug-18 9:32

28-Aug-18 9:32

That might happens when the article is sent to "submit[at]cp..."

If the author does nothing here using the CP-Editor...

M.D.V.

OriginalGriff28-Aug-18 19:32

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28-Aug-18 19:32

Which makes a lot of sense, and probably shouldn't be changed.

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Nelek28-Aug-18 20:26

28-Aug-18 20:26

I agree with you and it actually is a point not that relevant for what I am asking for, because it at least is consequent. I mean: message approved by and versions history match.

M.D.V.

Wendelius29-Aug-18 3:53

Wendelius

29-Aug-18 3:53

Seems logical. Never used that 'feature' so it didn't cross my mind Smile | :)

Chris Maunder30-Aug-18 8:41

Chris Maunder

30-Aug-18 8:41

Fair points. Let me dig in a little and see what we can do to make more useful.

Thanks for the feedback.

cheers
Chris Maunder

Nelek30-Aug-18 11:03

30-Aug-18 11:03

You are welcome.

And thank you too for taking it in consideration.

M.D.V.

Nelek2-Sep-18 11:32

2-Sep-18 11:32

Hi Chris...

Sorry, I bring a new point to dig about.

This item[^] was in moderation as an article, and it got approved after edition by the staff, then auto approved and it says "approved by editor or trusted writer" as I listed above. So far so good, but...

I have taken a look in the revisions list:

I am in the list of approvers, but I don't think I approved it. I did use the red flag though, to say "wrong type (tip, blog, article)" as I have done again.

@AkhilMittal, @ppolymorphe, @BryianTan, @User-59241 did you approve it? Or did you report it as well? (If report... which option? just in case it is useful for Chris' digging)

M.D.V.

Bryian Tan2-Sep-18 16:26

Bryian Tan

2-Sep-18 16:26

I don’t think I approved it. I think I reported it with a note “ maybe tip”

Bryian Tan

Downvote to me measured.

Er. Puneet Goel27-Aug-18 22:53

27-Aug-18 22:53

Hello CP,

I am an avid member and love to help the community. I loved Code Project. But recently I found something that hurt me badly and left me shocked.

I have been answering the community people. But I found that someone has downvoted all my articles and answers posted within an hour. So it looks like this not genuine downvoting.

This should be taken care to maintain the standard. Please correct me I am wrong.

Thanks & Regards
Puneet Goel
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Richard MacCutchan28-Aug-18 0:56

Richard MacCutchan

28-Aug-18 0:56

I cannot see any downvotes on your articles, but the two answers that got downvoted look more like comments. Perhaps you have made a comment that someone took offence to.

But in the grand scheme of things, votes will not buy you a new car, so just accept it as part of life in a public forum.

Er. Puneet Goel28-Aug-18 1:05

28-Aug-18 1:05

I understand but then why we have this point system even? This way I may target one particular member and downvote everything. So this is not an explanation.

Moreover, Even in the democracy voting won't buy you anything but still, it should be fair for the system to work properly.

Thanks & Regards
Puneet Goel
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Richard MacCutchan28-Aug-18 1:25

Richard MacCutchan

28-Aug-18 1:25

Like I said, it is part of the cost of working in a public forum. Down or Up votes make very little difference to your status here. Just accept that it will happen: trolls are everywhere. Don't waste time worrying about it but get on with doing what you enjoy.

Nelek28-Aug-18 1:13

28-Aug-18 1:13

One of two...

Someone from the staff has removed all downvoting, or you have looked wrong.

You have no downvotes in your articles or tips.

M.D.V.

Er. Puneet Goel28-Aug-18 18:45

28-Aug-18 18:45

I am still having downvotes. I can see it in my points table.

Thanks & Regards
Puneet Goel
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Nelek28-Aug-18 20:43

28-Aug-18 20:43

Not in your articles or tips when I yesterday checked them up.

About in your messages... seeing the message below, I think you deserve some of the downvotes.

In addition... complaining that much about the downvotes can make you a target for more downvotes.

M.D.V.

Richard Deeming28-Aug-18 3:00

Richard Deeming

28-Aug-18 3:00

I assume you're looking at your down-voted QA solutions?

My thoughts on your down-voted solutions from the first page:

Store procedure for making income tax[^]
This should have been posted as a comment, not a solution.

(Although, to be honest, I think the "we do not do your homework" answers should be comments as well, combined with reporting the question as "not a question". But that's a different discussion.)

Want to remove single quote from items inside json string using javascript[^]
A code dump with no explanation. In order to see the proposed solution, you have to scroll to the bottom of the code block. It also appears to be a C# solution, when the question was about Javascript.

How to use a variable to count from 1-10. Output the count to the user interface using a messagebox.show(); so that each number is displayed one at a time?[^]
Another code block with no explanation. Looking at the comments, the OP was struggling to implement your solution, and probably down-voted it for that reason.

Update 1st 5 digit of value[^]
Solution is for C#; the question was about SQL.

How do I generate random bank account number on C#[^]
No obvious reason for the down-votes.

How do I take numbers from textbox[^]
No obvious reason for the down-vote.

Cross domain call with ajax[^]
Answering your own question more than a year later, with an answer that's not particularly clear.

Beyond that, the first page has 12 questions with no votes, and one with two "5" votes. It certainly doesn't look like there's anyone "targeting" you. Smile | :)

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Sean Ewington29-Aug-18 4:37

Sean Ewington

29-Aug-18 4:37

There is no one particular person downvoting your answers. And not every answer is downvoted. I believe this is more generic downvoting from your peers.

Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject

Nish Nishant31-Aug-18 5:39

Nish Nishant

31-Aug-18 5:39

Ouch, that's an ego burn for the OP Smile | :)

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Nelek2-Sep-18 23:37

2-Sep-18 23:37

Being evil... I would say, one gets what seeds Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

M.D.V.

Drive-By's in Q&A

W∴ Balboos, GHB27-Aug-18 2:44

W∴ Balboos, GHB

27-Aug-18 2:44

Possibly a Leslie-ian remark, but I answered a Q&A with another option (Q&A was oldish, but got bumped to list top and who reads dates?).

Anyway - I got a down-vote - no big deal - but the answer wasn't horrible so I went to see what's going on. All answers in the Question [^] were down-voted. This applies to the three original (circa 2014) and the three new.

So - assuming it is brought to their attention, can the mighty curators of CP see who does this and "make further inquiry"?

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Re: Drive-By's in Q&A

Nelek27-Aug-18 3:03

27-Aug-18 3:03

W∴ Balboos wrote:
Q&A was oldish, but got bumped to list top and who reads dates?

I usually do, it helps spotting spammers

W∴ Balboos wrote:
All answers in the Question were down-voted...
can the mighty curators of CP see who does this...?

In my case, no need. I don't hide.

I have downvoted / reported two of them, Solution #4 which brought the item back to live and #6 because I find the answer brings nothing to the topic (and looking to the history of this user... one could think he is near to abuse/troll)

Yours was more than clear that it was a "collateral" error of the question being brought back to top.
I do agree that downvoting the original answers makes no sense though.

M.D.V.

Re: Drive-By's in Q&A

Er. Puneet Goel28-Aug-18 0:43