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Chris Maunder wrote: Not deleted, reported. You have The Power (and it saves us running around
mopping up the debris)
This will take a while, Chris. 
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The question discussed here is by far not the worse.
What do you think about this, for example:
http://www.codeproject.com/Questions/186731/You-guys-are-supposed-to-help.aspx[^]?
(By this moment it was deleted but readable. My comments were deleted and related to OP's previous question and discussion which probably was a reason for such behavior.)
You can see, I'm not trying to consider this as a big deal. I also don't hide my role in this "conflict"; this is really outrageous case of demanding help in a pretty much hopeless situation. However, even this case is not the worse one.
I do not care too much about plain rudeness or offensive behavior — it can happen at some moments of desperation or frustration. I know some cases when people behaved quite friendly and even decently after certain outbreaks.
I more care about behavior I could call "destructive". I just want to understand what kind of moderation can be considered and how appropriate reporting should be done, from my side, in particular. I do know that this question is very unpleasant, but some extreme cases are really rare. One example could be deletion of the question after valuable contribution was done to provide a solution, another example would be total down-voting of all questions motivated by "I found real solution" and denial to share the found "solutions". No, I don't care about voting system (it cannot be perfect by definition and possible "improvements" are not necessarily good). I'm thinking about moderation in most extreme cases, such as a warning possibly followed by a total bun. I have my personal ignore list; and it's quite short (considering my 1,713 answers by the moment of writing).
In my practice, it's some 5-10 extreme cases of destructive behavior per thousand, may be. Really disturbing fact is that the site gets worse due to attack of some aggressively ignorant newcomers. Maybe, a tolerance to rare but most extreme destructive cases is a big loss in expert's motivation? I really value the this site and provided services to the community and am really interested in keeping its really high quality standards.
—SASergey A Kryukov
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Here's my philosophy:
I enjoy helping people who in turn appreciate being helped, who enjoy the learning process, and who in turn help others who follow in their tracks. I especially enjoy interesting and well-posed questions and strongly believe that the types of questions that are posed reflect the types of questions we allow. If we wish to improve the quality of the questions posted then we need to improve the average quality of the questions currently posted. Remove the awful, fix the ones with potential, guide the community into a habit of helping us help them.
I am not paid to help, nor do I ask anything for my help other than to be treated professionally and with consideration. I understand there are cultural differences in how a question can be asked, but the difference between cultural faux pas and rudeness is usually easy to pick. I am under no obligation to put up with demands or abuse.
I will not help someone who has clearly made no effort to help themselves, and worse, who make no effort to help others to help them. I don't see the point. I also won't help those who consider it their right to have their questions answered, as opposed to it being a favour the community does for others in the community.
I will delete that is abusive and remove these members, and report anything that is truly inappropriate such as verbatim homework questions, or questions along the lines of "I have to write a system that does X. Please send the code". These people don't want help learning, they want others to do their work for them. That's not why we're here.
And for those who have tried everything and need the community's help, who have narrowed their problem down, have thought about what they need and have simply and clearly asked for help? I'll do whatever it takes to help them.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thank you, Chris.
I would probably sign under every you word.
Nevertheless, I would appreciate any advice on dealing with concrete situations — extreme destructive behavior, reporting my and others' concerns in such cases and moderation which can possible be consider. In particular, is "Bugs and suggestions" an appropriate place for expressing such concerns? I'm asking because reporting options do not contain and field for textual motivation anymore. I noticed some experts report in "Bugs and suggestions" and suggest some action, simply because there is probably no other place for posting such things.
Thank you again.
—SASergey A Kryukov
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SAKryukov wrote: In particular, is "Bugs and suggestions" an appropriate place for expressing such concerns?
Reporting is best, but it can take a while for others to find and report spammers. I have a particular dislike for spammers on this site so reporting them here is a perfect option.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Hi Chris,
No wonder you dislike that . Spamming is maybe the worse case so far.
Thank you for your reply and your notification about action on the next case I detected (spamming). I think I have a better idea on what to do .
—SASergey A Kryukov
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Thanks for reporting this. The account has been banned.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Go far enough into a forum that an ellipsis is shown in the page links. Hover over it, it gets the same box and color change that the clickable links do, but it's not clickable.
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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How about that. Thanks Dan.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Please add one item for Code Versioning.
I suspect we should have 'Visual Source Safe' OR 'Source Versioning'
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Where - Articles? Q/A? Tips?
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Ask a question on that topic, tag is as you wish, and the tag will be added.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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So let it be written, so let it be done.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Didn't work for me , Please clarify
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This member[Reporting tools] is advertising the reporting tool in various Q/A forums-answers. Please take appropriate action.
♫ 99 little bugs in the code,
99 bugs in the code
We fix a bug, compile it again
101 little bugs in the code ♫
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He has posted one message which you responded to, I don't see any advertising.
The best things in life are not things.
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I replied him, thinking his question as genuine.
Later I checked his profile.
But, now, he has deleted his 6 answers from 6 different Q/A sections, where he was advertising with an link to a reporting tool.
♫ 99 little bugs in the code,
99 bugs in the code
We fix a bug, compile it again
101 little bugs in the code ♫
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Report the member as a spammer if that's what you consider them to be and move on.
On their profile page is the red flag, bottom right.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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The tabs on home page are not displaying correctly. These tabs are not correctly aligned in line with News and All tabs.
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Which browser are you using?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Google Chrome, IE8
Articles, Blogs, Tips/tricks, Alternate tips,Questions and discussions are moved upwards than the News and All tabs.
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How is it now?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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