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I would not favor an asymmetric voting system. Getting many "useful" marks might indicate either an excellent article on a rather specialized topic, or a mediocre article on a very popular subject.
 Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that. All Toronto weekends should be extremely wet until we get it automated in regular forums, not just QA.
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The only danger would be that articles aren't voted because nobody has used the code or technique..45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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Nope. Having a symmetric voting scheme results in an average value giving the aggregate opinion of all who decided to vote, whether high or low, and independent of the popularity of the subject. One article having an average score of 4.5 tells me it is liked more than another article averaging at 3.3; even when the former is voted 1000 times and the latter 10 times, or the other way around. An asymmetric scheme can't provide the same kind of information.
That is one of the reasons I continue to defend the 1-to-5 voting scale for everything on CP, while bashing the good/bad question and good/bad answer stuff (which is still in place although Chris admitted was not working as hoped).
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that. All Toronto weekends should be extremely wet until we get it automated in regular forums, not just QA.
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Yesterday I accidentally unchecked the "Use HTML in this post" check box in the posting form. Now every new post I make has this unchecked. Anyway to reset that so it's checked by default?
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For message forums, your "settings/forum" tab should hold the defaults for the 4 checkboxes.
Not sure whether the "Interpret HTML..." one that exists for QA and TT is merged with the forum one.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [Why QA sucks] [My Articles]
I only read code that is properly formatted, adding PRE tags is the easiest way to obtain that. All Toronto weekends should be extremely wet until we get it automated in regular forums, not just QA.
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... But not in Chinese this time around 
Clicking various links around the site (for instance the "New post" button in this 'ere forum) result in a "401 - Unauthorized: Access denied due to invalid credentials. Please go take a long walk off a short pier/get bent/all your base..." or something similar.
Evidence[^]
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Just reconfiguring a server and it's kicking up a storm.
One of the guys just headed out back to get the large, electrified prods so that should fix things.cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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| Web Dev forum isn't rendering the way it should. Here[^] is an image that shows how it looks in FF 3.6. "No matter how many fish in the sea; it will be so empty without me." - From song "Without me" by Eminem
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| Fixed cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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| That was quick. Thanks. "No matter how many fish in the sea; it will be so empty without me." - From song "Without me" by Eminem
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when going to this[^] user's profile it says: 1 article
but when clicking on it I get this[^]
Kind of confusing as well since the "title" says 0 articles found
and underneath it says "Article: 1"
So something is going wrong there
(haven't seen it anywhere else tho, but didn't test on that many users)
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| Thanks - we'll check out what's happening cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I see it's fixed
Yet there is something else strange going on (or not don't really know)
The same user's reputation states 'Author -5'
After reading the FAQ it seems this is possible when a article / tip trick / blog is down-voted but this user hasn't posted any article's / tip trick / blog.
Maybe the reputation hasn't caught up yet or something, just thought I'd point it out
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Maybe the correct way to jerk a knot in these people is to have a stepped retribution system.
Strike 1
- Account is suspended for 7 days.
- The user cannot post/vote (or otherwise participate) in the site beyond reading the content
- User account status is set to bronze
- A 90-day probation before he can gain status above bronze
- The user's icon is overlaid with a dark gray "/" in a dark gray circle to indicate he's suspended
- The user's icon is overlaid with a dark gray "/" without the dark gray circle to indicate he's on probation
Strike 2
- Account is suspended for 30 days.
- The user cannot post/vote (or otherwise participate) in the site beyond reading the content
- All current messages marked as not replyable
- Reputation set to 0
- User account status set to whatever is below bronze.
- A 90-day probation before he can gain status to bronze.
- The user's icon is overlaid with a dark red "/" in a dark red circle to indicate he's suspended
- The user's icon is overlaid with a dark red "/" without the dark red circle to indicate he's on probation
Strike 3
- User account is banned
- His/her user icon is changed to a red "Bob" profile superimposed with a black "/" with a black circle.
In the event of a Strike 1 or Strike 2, the user is emailed with instructions to respond to the notice or be immediately banned.
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I know - this is a lot of work for a relatively small problem, but the current crop of retards is decimating the C# forum..45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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| You've heard of Occam's razor, but much prefer a turbo charged Braun 8995 with all the extra attachments. cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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I didn't think you guys would go for "Strike 1 - Send a hit squad out to take care of business.".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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| It would certainly be simpler... cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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And cheaper. You figure one guy getting paid $5000 for the act, plus travel, lodging, and meal reimbursement would be cheaper than paying a programmer to make the necessary changes. .45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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just send a few of these[^]
and lets move on
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After strike 1, the "user" will right away create a new account. I'd simply recommend that the IP needs to be verified, and the user be IP banned in case of repeat violations of the terms.
Care needs to be taken to check if there are other legit users using the same IP (working for a same company?).
“Follow your bliss.” – Joseph Campbell
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That's all fine for static IP's but alot of users can have dynamic IP's (I have at home) so they can just change it when they want.
+ the IP that is being banned is then given to someone else and there is a chance that that person is also a member here and finds himself blocked for no good reason. K it's a very small chance but it could happen
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Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: the IP needs to be verified
Rajesh: How does the cybercell of our police work? I believe they don't just depend upon IP addresses but verify with the ISPs en route as well. This should also help out to weed out bad apples however a good amount of homework needs to be done to cover multiple laws.Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
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Tech Gossips
The woods are lovely, dark and deep,
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep!
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I'd suggest to strike 1 (or maybe a strike 0) a simple visual change - say the change to the icon, for 7 days. Nothing else.
Won't help against those to clueless to notice they are misbehaving, and won't help against those with malicous intent. But t5here might be a miniscule amount of teens that just haven't learnt manners - and still haven't had some fundamental physics lesson - earth revoles around the sun, not them. Suspending them will enrange them, close them out, and stimulate creating more accounts and "slashing back".
A pestilence "mark" on the icon makes it immediatekly visible to us - and maybe easier to ignore.
Chris might even throw in an option hiding thir posts. Which gives me an idea: Just hide their posts for everyone else. So they have their playground, can post their crap, but only they will see it. Muhahahahahahahaaa!
Just a little overly optimistic social theory. From a geek.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: the current crop of retards is decimating the C# forum.
Isn't that a requirement for using C#?  You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists.
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