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Given that this is the Site Bugs and Suggestions board, what is your suggestion?
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Well,
I think fast-tracking accounts off the site is useful for certain scenarios. But putting members on a 'Spammers' list because they had a disagreement is inaccurate and unfair. We need to treat everyone equally, new members should be treated with the same respect as the veterans. When two members are having a disagreement we should look carefully at both sides.
The site should rely on each other, we are all friends. Two members spoke up early to indicate what we already knew.
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So, is that not a conversation for the lounge rather than the suggestions part? It's hard to see what Chris and co can do that won't open the site up on the spam front, so unless you have an idea I can't see, this isn't the right forum.
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I'm interpreting this as "Send all complaints to /dev/null".
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When you saw that the account was in a Spam list, you could have added a comment in the thread to challenge it.
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Well,
This why I said we are all friends and should rely on each other. Two members reached out into that thread in an attempt to intervene. But no moderators responded.
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It's easy to call a moderator's attention to a forum message with the @name construct.
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Yeah,
That was also done[^] by Nelek to intervene. Unfortunately there was no response.
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I think I have reported the account while going through some of the "Still alives" because I forgot about your and Bruno's comments the first time.
I could track the reportings down to the first Still alive spammers 1/2[^] when he was included.
And found the first reported[^]
and the third one[^]
but could not find the message in which he was originally reported.
The "Still alive" is an automated list generated by some code created by OG. Its biggest fault is, that to avoid such a situation, the link to the "to be checked" user has to be deleted in its previous appearances.
The only thing I can do right now is to ask you, that the next time you summon me too and I will delete the links to give more time to the staff to dig in the situation. I should have done it this time when I summoned Sean, I didn't expect the message to go unnoticed.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Thank you Nelek,
That was very useful feedback. I can see how the mistake was made.
I didn't want to air all this out in public. The discrete method of dropping hints wasn't working. And to make matters worse all the posts by those two members were deleted. So I think only a few of us know what this thread is about.
I appreciate your support.
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Randor wrote: Thank you Nelek, You are welcome.
Randor wrote: That was very useful feedback. Glad if it helped.
Randor wrote: So I think only a few of us know what this thread is about. To be honest... I think I didn't read the original messages, but I do remembered your (and Bruno's) hints when I saw this thread.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
modified 15-Jul-22 16:41pm.
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Nelek wrote: I think I didn't read the original messages, but I do remembered your (and Bruno's) hints
Thanks for being honest in this discussion.
How common is it for the moderations team to vote members off the site without actually seeing the transgression? What criteria did you use when you made your decision? And would it have helped if you could see those posts?
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Randor wrote: How common is it for the moderations team to vote members off the site without actually seeing the transgression? As with many questions: it depends. Most reports are accepted because a) we trust the reporting member, and b) the only information is in the spam message that gets removed by the reporter. For spammers whose messages get through the system we have the opportunity to review the content, and accept the report or query it with the reporting member - which does happen. So, yes, the system is not perfect but it's better than having CodeProject flooded with garbage, especially on days when there is a bot attack.
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As Richard said, I trust the criteria of many reporters. I still check myself when I have the opportunity.
I do trust too, that in case of wrong reporting the OP will edit the message to remove the link, so that a false positive doesn't gets in the "Still alive" list. And if I see that there is one I get it out of the list and search the previous places to remove the links and ask CP staff for a wipe of the reports.
I do question reports when I can check and I am not sure about it. I tell others to remove links or I do it myself when it is not clear enough. I do summon Sean or Chris when there are doubts to get an "official" statement. I have reported several bugs / done several suggestions to improve the process.
But there are times when errors still happen. I have wrongly reported a couple of users along the time myself and when someone told me / the situation was clarified, I apologized publicly in the forum and to the concrete user.
Randor wrote: What criteria did you use when you made your decision? It was in the still alive list. I did summon Sean in one moment of this case just trusting your criteria same as I do trust the criteria of most people reporting. Dumb was that I have lately been less online than ususal and as I said, I didn't think the summoning would end unattended.
Randor wrote: And would it have helped if you could see those posts? definitively. And I would have acted in consequence either defending the user or the report, depending on what I would have read.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Nelek, it was _never_ your mistake!
Bruno
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I didn't take it as an accusation.
He asked, I answered.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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This post[^] was somehow duplicated. Note that its two instances bracket a slightly more recent post.
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I told you not to poke around in the time machine!
But seriously, I think it was two posts of the same content. The subject lines are subtly different - projects vs systems
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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I missed that. But there's still the question of both having the same time and bracketing the later one.
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I wonder if this is a case where they got caught in the spam filter, and submitted the exact same comment twice, AND got approved twice. I removed the duplicate.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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Given the poster's rep points, that probably explains it.
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One of my articles shows a lot of downlaods, which are wrong.
C# MVVM Toolkit Demo[^]
Since some days it jumps higher and higher, much more downloads than listet in the table.
Last night it was 407:
6-Jul-22 3:36AM 1 Author Source code or demo file downloaded Related File CsMvvmToolkit_CP.zip
5-Jul-22 11:24PM 1 Author Source code or demo file downloaded Related File Schafkopf.zip
5-Jul-22 7:08PM 1 Author Source code or demo file downloaded Related File CsMvvmToolkit_CP.zip
This morning it shows 424 !
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Reputation History shows only 2 downloads for CsMvvmToolkit_CP.zip within one day.
But article now shows 599 downloads (1 day eralier 424 ) !!!
C# MVVM Toolkit Demo
19 May 2022 Updated: 19 May 2022 Rating: 5.00/5 Votes: 5 Popularity: 3.49
Licence: CPOL Views: 5,990 Bookmarked: 23 Downloaded: 599
Reputation History for Jo_vb.net
Page 1 of 131 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10First · Prev · Next · Last
Date Points Event Item
7-Jul-22 8:38AM 1 Participant Sign in Member
7-Jul-22 3:33AM 1 Author Source code or demo file downloaded Related File CsMvvmToolkit_CP.zip
6-Jul-22 12:08PM 10 Author Article Upvoted Article Schafkopf Starter Kit 2.3
6-Jul-22 8:51AM 1 Author Source code or demo file downloaded Related File CsMvvmToolkit_CP.zip
6-Jul-22 8:32AM 1 Debator Post a General Forum Message Forum Message Wrong number of downloads
6-Jul-22 8:25AM 1 Participant Sign in Member
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Delete does not work.
I suspect that this has been mentioned multiple times so far.
I tried to delete a question, but there is no delete button for a question. So I just edited it to say that it was deleted and removed all of the question body.
I tried to delete a comment, but it stayed up for days undeleted. So I edited it to say that it was deleted and left it at that.
I am posting this in the "Rant" section, though it is not really a rant since I understand that other people have their own reasons for doing things however they do things.
Delete does not work.
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