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When an article is in the approval stage, voting without a comment makes no sense whatsoever. The whole idea of the approval stage is to help members write good articles. Even if you're voting 5, tell the author why - good explanation, logical treatment, helpful demo, practical example, nice code, whatever. Or maybe everything is good except for one thing that was a bit lacking. Voting 5 for an approval stage article is like offering motivation, to write more.
I also like the idea of requiring some number of "approval" clicks before the article is made public. I think most people here who read the "approval stage articles" give comments that are more in-depth and helpful than comments for already-approved articles, and so leaving the article in a pending state for a bit longer makes sense.
Finally, there's always the red "Report" flag if there's a serious problem.
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I agree with all. We've not had a chance to implement a "5 votes for live", but I've removed voting for pending articles.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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I have suggested this earlier and just repeat it here:
IMO such messages should remain visible to the person that started the thread, and to the article's author, so both parties can check all suggested/requested changes have been made. As for your fresh start, you can simply hide them for everyone else (or maybe just show a "thread by XYZ removed as it belongs to an earlier version" which leaves the existence and author still visible).
Furthermore, you could disable most widgets, the messages don't need further edits/deletes/replies/votes.
If one of both parties want to continue the discussion, they could copy/paste a message and start a new thread.
And since the messages remain intact (at least to two people), so should the votes they have collected. Effort has been spent, rewards should persist.
Warning: all the above pertains to an edit of the base material, and IMO an approval is not an edit. Someone (or later a collective) approving an article does not change a thing on the views others have expressed; editing is the operation that may (or may not) invalidate previous reactions.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.
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FYI, my issue was not due to an article being approved. See the edit to my OP.
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I think it is because an entire thread got deleted (perhaps by Chris). Jason Carlson posted a message, "Hello", in the Lounge yesterday. His profile was linked to in a below thread and the profile appears to have been deleted. Any links to the "Hello" thread also appear to be broken, so I guess that thread was deleted too. I posted about 4 replies in that thread, so it makes sense now.
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In this case, yes. It was a spammer and the only way to remove it properly is to remove the entire thread.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Here is how to reproduce it.
1) On some Answer, click "Add Comment";
2) Put some comment #1 and post it;
3) Immediately after, click "Add Comment" again;
4) Put some comment #2 and post it;
5) Try to edit comment #2: locate Edit icon of comment #2 and click it => edit control shows comment #1 instead of #2.
Used: Mozilla SeeMonkey v. 2.0.11, Windows XP SP3.
Sergey A Kryukov
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I think this issue already in bug list.
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Nice one.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thanks again.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thanks Alain. I'll look into this.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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A couple of times recently, I have answered a question, only to have the question be deleted, presumably because the OP has his / her answer and doesn't want anyone else to benefit.
The thing is, this is rude: it stops anyone else with the same problem finding a ready-made solution, and duplicates work - sometimes work which has taken a good chunk of time. You can't even send a message to the OP to ask them not to do it again, as even the username is no longer available.
You can't delete a whole thread in a forum when there is a reply, so why should it be possible to do it for a Q&A question?
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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Fully Agree.
If there is an Live Answer (i.e. one that has not been deleted) present, then the OP cannot delete their question.
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This person[^] spamming in the Java forum.
I must get a clever new signature for 2011.
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Not any more.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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If possible, I would vote against them.
I can see significant improvements in site usability, thank you very much.
Can you understand why scrollable areas inside page are difficult. Who cares if the whole page is a bit too long -- general scroll does it all. But nested scrollable areas hide part of text and require extra clicks. That's much more annoying. Please try yourself.
Thank you very much for understanding.
--SA
Sergey A Kryukov
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I'll remove this.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thank you very much!
Sergey A Kryukov
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JSOP recently posted a question: what level does -16 debator points on a 1 vote.
I tried to find out:
I took a snap-shot of his rep points, one voted him, shap-shot, and then changed my vote to a five.
Before: 38,101 62,040 87,012 2,929 597 1,676 7,920
1-Vote: 38,101 62,040 86,996 2,929 597 1,676 7,920
5-Vote: 38,101 62,040 86,996 2,929 597 1,676 7,920
So I do a -16 with an MVP/29,310 platinum debator.
Interestingly, when I change my vote to a 5, he didn't get the points back, let alone any extra points for a 5 vote. It doesn't appear to be time based, as five~ten minutes later he is still below the original value, having added one point for another question.
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
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Members[^] page has 19 members in 2 Pages, but both the pages show the same members.
I am using Chrome 8.
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The link is missing in your post...
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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