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Nish and I were discussing how it gains a user many more points to answer questions over a week's time than it does do write an article during that same week, and that's basis for this suggestion.
How about awarding points for an article *view count*. Nish suggested 50-100 points for every 500 views accumulated. Of course, you'd probably have to not count views by the article's author (to keep said author from gaming the system)...
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On the other hand, maybe 50 points would be a bit much... Maybe 20 points/500 views on articles, and 10 points per 500 views on tips/blogs.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
modified on Monday, February 14, 2011 10:57 AM
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And what happens why a spider gets stuck on the aritcle, like we have seen in the Q&A's?
You would have to cater for them also, and in the end it just creates an administrative nightmare i would have thought.
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Spiders usually get at the better articles, and I don't think it's a common enough event to be worried about. CP also has blocks against spider-ing I am sure.
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You are talking of view by just-anyone or view by logged-in users/members only?
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I don't think that will work (for the reason that bots are often used to browse the article pages, as cited by someone above). It would have to be restricted to a certain number of views per day, and/or views by logged-on users.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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I am pretty sure that only a fractional percentage of views are from logged in members. Most people hit upon an article via Google/Bing, and they don;t bother signing up (unless they absolutely have to download the zip files).
So being logged in should not be a criteria. But there should be checks in place to only count one view per unique IP per day (for not logged in visitors). That would solve the bots/spidering issue.
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I don't get it. Why not just recommend that the points for submitting an article be increased? Or do you & Nish have a "You view mine, and I'll view yours" thing going?
Seriously, why not go with KISS?
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I'm not keen on this idea because it gives authors points regardless of the quality of the article. Add to that the blatant hole we'd open for abuse.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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This[^] Tip/Trick seems to be attracting more than it's fair share of idiots.
Henry Minute
Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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It took me a second to figure out what you meant, but now that I have I agree.
I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.
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You seem to be easily attracted by articles you don't like. I would be careful when assigning epithets.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.
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Have you been taking fierceness lessons?
Henry Minute
Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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not yet, they still are on my to-do list.
Luc Pattyn [Forum Guidelines] [My Articles] Nil Volentibus Arduum
Please use <PRE> tags for code snippets, they preserve indentation, improve readability, and make me actually look at the code.
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In older versions of the forum when the page was loading really slowly (eg 1 message line/second) if you clicked on any messages before the load finished it restarted loading the entire page. This only made things worse so I always twiddled my thumbs when the hamster wheels needed oiled; but a few minutes ago I forgot and clicked a post and had it open without triggering a page reload.
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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I fixed that a couple of months ago.
I love that you just noticed it - it means the change was useful to the point of invisibility. A worthy goal for software.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Extremely slow. Sometimes the pages won't load and only loads on repeated refreshing. FYI.
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I'll ask and see if there was some maintenance this morning.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thanks, the slowness went away after about an hour or so.
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Once a trouble-maker's rep has fallen below some acceptable value, say, -100, the account should be suspended from posting or voting for a period of 10 days. Once reinstated, the account's debator points are once again reset to zero, and we start again. If he falls below -100 a 2nd time, his account is supended for 30 days. When is account is reinstated a 2nd time, we re-zero his debator points, and we start again. If he falls below -100 a 3rd time, the account is locked and rendered unusable. At each suspension, all of the user's voting points are removed as well.
I know this is going to be hard to do, but Sherylee is raising havoc - again - and something should be done.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Funny that you should suggest this. I was thinking along the lines of Chris "accidentally" sending you his whereabouts. A much more permanent solution, don't you think?
(I was going to reply to POH's Lounge post, but you beat me to it...)
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Although I agree something should be done, I don't think this would work.
If a reputation is negative or zero, I don't think someone would feel so attached to this account to wait out the suspension period. Instead, they could just make a new account and repeat their behaviour.
It would be different if there was a reputation requirement of f.e. 500 Author/Authority before being able to vote anywhere and make non-programming posts.
modified 13-Sep-18 21:01pm.
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yeah but you are not a big poster of message in the Lounge. So by what you are saying you would have to post a bunch of answers in order to rake in the authority points in order to vote on a silly thread in the lounge. this will promote even more bullshit answers in the Q/A forum. my 2 cents.
I say restrict access via IP address (if possible) as "one of" a few ways to accomplish retribution and punishment.
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Crappy answers would get downvoted though, so the poster knows they have to post something meaningful if they want to advance their reputation.
Personally I think it's not a bad thing to have an Author/Authority requirement on some functionality, considering the code project is about programming. Then again, Debator reputation as requirement on voting would be equally effective.
modified 13-Sep-18 21:01pm.
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Thaddeus Jones wrote: considering the code project is about programming.
Yes and no.
However, I do see the point you are trying to make.
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