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Rick York20-Nov-22 20:07
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Kirk 1038982121-Nov-22 3:35
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This makes me feel better.
I've been buying the Precision Laptop/Workstations.
They are gamer designs I use for development. I don't play any games, so I sacrifice the GPU a bit.
(as long as I can run 4 monitors, or one 55inch 4k UHD, I am good).

BUT... That said... We've seen overheating issues. I could leave my old machine running for days.
Now I power off every night.
I also have a piece of wood UNDER the back of the machine to increase airflow. One of my devs has his sitting on a laptop cooler (5 fan design) as he doesn't have the A/C options, and the summer months are a problem.

I've noticed it's only getting worse.

FWIW, I agree with building machines for long-term. I shoot for 5yrs. After 2yrs, I usually buy a "cold spare" (A used version of the same computer, off-lease), and use it for testing/validating my backups (cloned drives).

I can't fathom getting 10yrs from a machine. Hardware (specifically USB seems to fail before that time).

But the cost of a new machine is on par with the 80 hrs it takes to move my licenses to it. In the last 2 builds, I've slowly started using more VMs for various development environments. I am hoping to get this down to 40hrs. The part I truly hate is LICENSED software tied to the DRIVE_ID (Quickbooks). So if I upgrade my hardrive, the software doesn't work until I jump through some hoops. But I have like 4 of those. It's just adding time to the process...

Finally comment on heat. One of the devs who was NOT cooling his machine ran into NVME issues where the drives were getting too hot and faulting. He actually assumed the drive was bad, and went through the restore process (swapping back to the previously cloned drive, and then restoring from backup any changed files).

The next day, he checked the the drive he replaced, and it was working fine! Scary.

I read somewhere that some building in iceland/greenland uses BTC miners to heat the building.
Basically the BTC is a wash for the energy consumption, and the heat is now beneficial. Probably the most expensive heater ever built. (Not sure it's a true store or it was a plan, FWIW).

But I feel your heated pain!

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