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I used punch cards while in college ('76-80). I was the programmer and the coder. But, at my first job after I'd graduated, they no longer used punch cards. That had stopped a few years before I started.

Back when they did use punch cards, the programmers wrote their code by hand on Fortran coding sheets. The sheets were given to keypunch girls (back then no self-respecting man ever took a typing course.). They typed up the cards and gave them back to the programmer who turned the deck into the system operators. The deck was read and run and the results given back to the programmer. You could generally get 2 runs in per day. Turn the deck in before lunch, after lunch check the results, make corrections then turn in the fixed deck before heading home that day. Next morning, get last night's results and the wheel gets another turn. The key puncher had no idea about the code, they blindly typed in what was on the coding sheets. Although, I was told the really good ones would fix simple errors on the sheets if they saw an obvious one, like a misspelled key word. So, not really pair programming at all.

When I started, the company had terminals connected to the mainframe. About 1 terminal for every 4 programmers. So, we still wrote our code onto coding sheets but we took them to a terminal and typed them in ourselves. You had to sign up for 2 hour terminal sessions but you could often find an open one where someone had finished their session early. You could often get 3, 4 or even 5 runs in a day then, though we usually printed out failed results and desk debugged since the mainframe had no debugger.

It took 4 years before some exec figured out that giving $25k programmers each their own $200 terminal was a financial no brainer. Still no debugger though. Ahhh, those halcyon days working on an 1100 series mainframe at Sperry Univac. I miss them like last year's root canal. Big Grin | :-D
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