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Throwaway888xxxx wrote: No I don't have any other charges, but idk why you're even telling me this when you're in the UK and not the US. Which means the legal system is different between the two.
I have never been to the US, but I still seem to know more about your own laws than you do. The internet is worldwide, I don't need to travel to learn.
Throwaway888xxxx wrote: i went to r/legaladvice from reddit as well as freecodecamp and i've been told otherwise. not sure who to believe
Why believe anyone? Go out and actually do something about it - apply for some jobs. You will find out quickly enough who was telling the truth and who wasn't.
Anyway, I agree with Kris, you are definitely trolling. Sad thing is, it doesn't bother any of us - we enjoy the conversations/arguments just as much as you do.
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musefan wrote: Why believe anyone? Go out and actually do something about it - apply for some jobs. You will find out quickly enough who was telling the truth and who wasn't.
Anyway, I agree with Kris, you are definitely trolling.
go out and apply and then immediately get shot down as soon as the arrest shows up cause no one is gonna give me a chance now? And you can believe i'm trolling all you want I have no reason to come here and lie as I believe this 100%. as I said it was a wrong thing coming here getting "help"/advice.
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Why would the arrest show up?
Also, so what if it does? You aren't going to be any worse off than you are now... but maybe you could be better off. Take a chance.
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musefan wrote: Also, so what if it does? You aren't going to be any worse off than you are now
ok and then im suppose to just settle with having a dead end job for the rest of my life?
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The same dead-end job you will have if you don't bother trying.
If a company performs background checks on their employees, they will do that regardless of you being full-time or a freelancer. Freelancing is not a way to avoid background checks. Therefore, you have to accept you will be background checked. So either take a chance, or stick with your dead-end job. Your life. Your choice.
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musefan wrote: Freelancing is not a way to avoid background checks. Therefore, you have to accept you will be background checked. So either take a chance, or stick with your dead-end job.
so then that just goes back to what I've been saying earlier. I have no chance now whatsoever now
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You have the same chance as everybody else.
You know, Bill Gates was arrested when he was 19... some dead-end job that got him stuck in hey.
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musefan wrote: You know, Bill Gates was arrested when he was 19... some dead-end job that got him stuck in hey. |
ok for starters bill gates was born into money so thats an irrelevant argument. and so basically now what you're saying is that even though i dont have a conviction and the arrest got expunged then being at a dead end job is all i can have although you say i have a chance just like anyone else which i dont but thanks for that mediocre response
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I have changed my mind... I don't think you have a chance anymore. Not because of your non-existent record, but because you lack any sort of attributes required to be a good developer (reading being one of them).
Enjoy your dead-end job 
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musefan wrote: I don't think you have a chance anymore. Not because of your non-existent record
so in the other posts you said it can still show up, but now you're saying that the record is non existent?
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I haven't once said it can still show up. Go find where I said that...
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maybe you didnt say it but as I recall you did say just apply and find out which indicates to me that it's gonna show up regardless. so once again my life is pretty much over.
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Well, you seem to know best, so whatever you say...
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Yeah, that's exactly what that means...
Since you can never be sure effort leads to reward, sitting back full of excuses is the only way to avoid the potential failure.
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The more from this thread I read, the more I get this feeling of deja vu. I can't remember where it was, it might even have been here on CP, but I was in a discussion forum--years ago--and someone showed up with the same sort of story and was shooting everything down because of some supposed criminal record he didn't even have, and he kept going back to that and trying to convince others he was wasting his time trying anything at all.
It was rather infuriating to try to reason with him. I don't know how social workers deal with people who don't want to help themselves.
And mentioning he got advice from Reddit...c'mon, this is such a tired old meme it's not even funny.
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Deja vu? But...but, you don't understand! This person's story is so much more different than the other person! 
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Yeah, he's 25. The other person 2 years ago was only 23!
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The thought did cross my mind. But I'm thinking maybe 5 years ago.
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i dont understand why you specify that i have a conviction when i said I didnt.
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Well, why did you choose to mention it in the first place? If you don't want people to reference it, then you probably shouldn't have included it.
Maximilien is simply stating that it is not relevant to the advice he is giving you.
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I mentioned the fact the i wasnt convicted to provide details rather than just say that i was arrested and ppl would automatically assume that i was in prison also which wasnt the case. look not to try and sound rude, but maybe it was bad idea coming here looking for advice.
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I think anywhere you go asking for advice and then either not even reading it or dismissing it out of hand is going to go badly for you.
You were told what expunged means. By several people. You do not have an arrest as far as anyone is concerned. It never happened. That's what expunged means.
I think anywhere you go asking for advice and then taking every comment, even those not directed at you as some kind of personal slight is going to go badly for you.
Maybe the problem isn't the venue.
Real programmers use butterflies
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You're being waay too over-sensitive - why would people automatically assume that you were in prison just because you had been arrested? They wouldn't.
Maximillien was not saying you had been convicted, he was saying it was not relevant to what else he had to say, he just didn't take care not to use "that" word.
You're getting some good advice here, stick with it but stop over-reacting - the internet can be a harsh place, but freelancing can be harsher. Get used to it.
And look "Expunge" means "to obliterate completely" so either the potential criminal record no longer exists or you are using the wrong term. If it no longer exists then it cannnot crop up in a background check - or at least not the sort of background check that non-government agencies can run
I think @Nelek has the right idea - do a check on yourself to see what might crop up.
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CHill60 wrote: the internet can be a harsh place, but freelancing can be harsher
Words to live by
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CHill60 wrote:
I think @Nelek has the right idea - do a check on yourself to see what might crop up.
Thanks. Better to know for yourself first hand, what others might find or not find, that brings perspective and can help avoiding some situations.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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