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... who the heck thought this was a good idea?
Live updates as Wrexham vaccine plant evacuated after receiving 'suspicious package' - Wales Online[^]
OK, so you don't want to have the vaccine. I get that - you read too much Twatter and Farcebook and believe everything you are told without any critical thought about what they say. That is your right.
But trying to prevent others getting it ... that's close to attempted murder.
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OriginalGriff wrote: that's close to attempted murder.
Same as not wearing a mask.
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20212 wrote: Same as not wearing a mask.
I would not go that far.
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Sorry to inform you, but until this panicademic, it was well documented by the CDC, the WHO, and other heath organizations that mask wearing doesn't protect you from viral infections and several studies, including a recent one by Danish heath researchers, have shown no statistical difference in infection rate of people who do and don't wear masks.
Instead, masks are actually face diapers that prevent the uncouth from sneezing, coughing, or otherwise spitting on others. In this regard they do work.
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obermd wrote: or otherwise spitting on others. In this regard they do work
Which was exactly his point if you reread his post : By not wearing a mask, you have higher stakes of infecting others, which they may die of.
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I'll tell my dentist and staff they're idiots for wearing masks and goggles because you say so.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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Hey, if they told the world to wear pots and pans on their heads in order to stay alive, they would, and then they would call the others who don't comply, idiots and murderers.
I can't go much more with this topic without flaming someone, and that is what got me banned before.
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What you say may be so - take the anti-maskers and anti-vaxers, for example - with the tin-foil wrapped around there heads.
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Idjit, the tin foil is the prevent alien mind control (or possibly the new fangled mobile network) not some pathetic little virus.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Elementary, my dear Holmes. The tin-foil hats have long been a part of their wardrobe. That's how they prevent mind control by the Illuminati-controlled media trying to get them to believe in science.
And, if you put your mind to it you could figure out that the foil can be used, replace with metal screen, as a way to prevent both insect bites and tiny drones from slipping into your brain head through your ears. It is extended downwards to prevent inhaling COVID, which is not a virus but a computer chips reduced to that size to control the human race.
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Masks can only help, but I've now heard of two peer-reviewed studies that conclude that lockdowns have had very little benefit. This is far more concerning because of the effect it's had on people's livelihoods and mental health.
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Fortunately we are 75% vaccinated... 14 days to go...
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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I am 0% vaccinated, and it looks like I won't be getting this life saving vaccination anytime soon (see NY state government and covid vaccination supply). So, it must not be that important, really.
upstate NY.
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Going by your avatar you are far too young to be at risk. 
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I am 49 and an insulin dependent diabetic. I also have to deal with bouts of pancreatitis.
I am supposed to be in the next wave of vaccinations (people under 70 years of age with pre-existing medical conditions).
My doctor's office notified me last week that they haven't been able to vaccinate people in the wave before mine (2nd wave. I'm third). Seems NY state has very little vaccinations left. So, it will be some time before I get to be saved from the virus.
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My son is the same, although a couple of years older. Not sure if he's had his yet, but he is keeping safe at home.
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I've been stuck at 13% for several weeks. Is it ok to reboot and try again? 
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I usually give it a sharp tap with a pencil, it soon goes down. 
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More and more people are getting skeptical to the point where they try to reach their own conclusions. Much of the blame lies with authorities and their sycophants, who have their own agendas and mislead the public, spin, or plain lie about various things. The internet now provides an easy vehicle for others to disseminate what they claim is the "truth", even though it can be just as misleading as some of the things coming from so-called authorities.
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hey I read it somewhere it must be true!
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Agreed, and with the end game being complete chaos, distrust, and never knowing the truth ever.
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If I learned something since I am in (local) responsibilities : telling or not the truth to the mass does not make any difference in the way they react in the end. Sometimes telling the truth makes your caring for them easier, sometimes it is the case by lying, because you win time or avoid lengthy justifications of your acts.
Do not forget that only a very few percentage of people around is able to accept - I do not even dare to write understand - that what is bad for them can be good on a larger scale.
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Certainly in the US, one of the biggest contributors to skepticism came from the white house with claim the vaccine would be ready just before election day. The obvious conclusion is that the FDA (appointees) &etc. would be pressured into cutting corners to meet that demand.
Well, it didn't happen but the damage is done.
Just like the pre-COVID anti-vax movement. Some of these nitwits didn't want their kids vaccinated and, instead, brought them to "parties" where one or more kids with (measles, chickenpox, etc.) was present so could get it "naturally". I wonder if they'll continue that brilliant practice with COVID?
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Surprisingly, Orange Man's timeline wasn't that far off. But the skepticism probably has far more to do with the fact that childhood vaccines have gone from half a dozen shots when I was a kid, to maybe three dozen today. People start to wonder if it's mostly to benefit Big Pharma. Or they look at the incidence of serious allergies, auto-immune diseases, ADHD, and autism, and decide that vaccines are to blame. I think there's actually something to be said for keeping an immune system practiced. The world is now so safe and sterile that too many immune systems get excited about things like animal dander and peanuts.
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