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I'm upset it wasn't included in the survey. I need to do some php now to make my self feel better. Besides I think my boss has realized I'm just surfing the net.
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Surfing the net at work is like having sex with your [edit]Hot![/edit] cousin
...it's great until you get caught. 
modified on Monday, February 9, 2009 6:44 AM
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MichaelGallagher wrote: Surfing the net at work is like having sex with your [edit]Hot![/edit] cousin
...it's great until you get caught.
You need to get out more. 
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Syed M Hussain wrote: I'm upset it wasn't included in the survey
It was probably just an oversight, no wait... conspiracy time.... Chris hates PHP and all the heathen bastards that use it. It's his way of ensuring we're wiped off the planet forever so he can launch his evil scheme named Bring Back the BillG Droids, which refuse to run on PHP I might add.
Seriously, don't worry about. I know Chris, I don't think it was anything to worry about.
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Lots of people develop in PHP, me included, but I voted C++ since that is the one that pays most of my bills.
Regards.
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Man, in my side of the world there are plenty of people working on PHP, but I hate it!!! It is the worst language ever, but it pays the bills sometimes, very often.
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Syed M Hussain wrote: So no body develops in php anymore?
I do, and it pays my bills.
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I was looking for a language to use for some websites - and after flailing my arms about my head for many days, I found PHP - and life was much nicer.
. . . also, it looks so much like C - and that was kinda' pleasant and nostalgic.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"How do you find out if you're unwanted if everyone you try to ask tells you to stop bothering them and just go away?" - Balboos HaGadol
"It's a sad state of affairs, indeed, when you start reading my tag lines for some sort of enlightenment. Sadder still, if that's where you need to find it." - Balboos HaGadol
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Delphi is paying my bills.....
Adrian Pasik
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Me too, my company has some million + lines of Delphi code to support still.
GSC
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but you don't make new projects in delphi right ?
Adrian Pasik
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I try my best not too, biggest reason for me to move to C#... job security, actually I've been converting older Delphi code to C#, never know when your job may be outsourced to a another country, so I try to learn everything I can.
GSC
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To Support? Shoot - FreePascal is Delphi Compatible and portable to a ton of operating systems and chipsets - even iPhone.
--Jason P Sage
http://www.jegas.com
Know way to many languages... master of none!
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You have my sympathies. Up until now 95% of our code has been in Delphi. At present we are converting, or redeveloping, into C#. My first programming in Delphi was back in '91, and Turbo Pascal years before that. I have allways hated, and will allways hate, Delphi, both the syntax of the language, the IDE, and the "support" tools provided. Allthough you may not need to be a masochist to enjoy Delphi, I'm convinced it helps.
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Bummer - though I enjoy the Objected Oriented Pascal way of doing things (The raw syntax - not the Borland Lib's necessarily) - I do understand the issue with the tools - Microsoft has a pretty decent toolset and Borland used to - but they don't rock the globe now like they used to when it comes to getting the attention of serious developers.
Hang in there  C# Is the best .Net language (opinion only) and coverting the code is an opportunity in some ways - for improvements if your company can afford to do it.
--Jason P Sage
http://www.jegas.com
Know way to many languages... master of none!
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Delphi is great. I use C#, Vb.net and PHP. But I have used Delphi a lot and currently I am makeing a small Delphi 2009 Win32 programm, a 1 file executable, fast Win32 code. Only C++ can beat that.
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Why can C++ beat that? Delphi is just as good and even handles x86 calling conventions on x86 platform except when calling C++ (cdeclspec) dll's.
Object Oriented Pascal - Delphi, FreePascal, GNU or otherwise rocks.
--Jason P Sage
http://www.jegas.com
Know way to many languages... master of none!
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I totally agree, but why then is it that your Jegas Games classes are in c++
I love Delphi, but these days only occasionaly has work for it, the majority of jobs i can find is in vb.net and C#, even PHP.
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LOL- Because DarkGDK is a precompiled lib - not a dll... to use it - there is no choice on that one.
And I agree with you - the masses tend to stick with the masses for no other reason it seems than to stay with the masses LOL.
Fortunately I have both the hobbiest, innovator and bossed around worker all in my blood!
As a hobbiest, I'm all over the place.
As a worker - I too am usually working with C# and things like Microsoft CRM, Sharepoint, C++, javascript, databases and even vba for saleslogix stuff...
As an innovator - I try to take the best of everything and build
--Jason P Sage
http://www.jegas.com
Know way to many languages... master of none!
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ok, i see.
You know, a friend of mine once was very enthousiastic about OS2 from IBM, realtime preemptive multitasking 32 bits.
I agreed, but at the office of my freelance jobs they where using Windows 3.xx.
So, i do what pays the bills, whatever, but i draw the line at Cobol 
Bossed around... i recognize that, i can take a lot as a freelancer, it's there money, time and possible failure, so i can only try
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Isn't it dependend on the company you work for?
It's nice of Microsoft to make a "language independend" platform, but if every developer uses his own language it's bound to have some barriers for maintenance later on.
We try to encourage new developers in choosing the same language for all new development.
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It does mean you get everyone programming to the "lowest common denominator" but yes I'd agree with that.
I think there's a fair argument though for educating the less able staff rather than restricting those with more experience.
Using the best techniques gives a better result.
Educating your staff to give them these options just seems sensible.
My opinion anyway (but not necessarily my employers opinion though, still working on that one)
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i think a better question would be, what technology are we being better paid for...?
SQL Server
ASP.net
PHP
I am not aware of that much technologies...!
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That statement reminds of a trivia question : what movie does the line, "220, 221, what ever it takes" used in ?
Bonus points for knowing who said it. 
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Jack Butler in Mr. Mom(1983)
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