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I bet. 
My current dev box (a dual core 2.2GHz Opteron with 5GB running Win2k8 x64) was an impulse buy after we saw the insane pricing one of our suppliers was offering on them (under £100, FFS!). We weren't actually planning to buy any new machines until later in the year but this was too tempting to pass up. 
For an entry level server box (HP Proliant ML115 G5) it's pretty zippy. Although I could use an additional 6 cores (some of the testing we do can easily chew through an arbitrary number of CPU cores) that can wait until n-core CPUs are a bit more available.
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yes, and we know what you are compensating
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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yes my really small car
DrewG, MCSD .Net
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We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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We're running with 16gb and 8 cores on our dev machines here, entirely necessary of course...
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Memory is very cheap if you do not buy it from a pc manufacturer. 8GB of quality DDR2 can be had for $170US at newegg. This is for sets of 2GB matched pair DDR2 PC6400 modules (four total 2GB dimms). If you buy your machine from Dell or HP they will charge you 3 to 6 times the market rate for lower quality dimms.
John
modified on Monday, August 4, 2008 1:47 PM
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Am running Core 2 Duo with 4gb and loving every minute of it; once I redo my server system (made the mistake of upgrading instead of replacing W2K3 with W2K8), that has 2gb and newly upgraded PIV @2GHz. Those are home systems, btw, at work just got a Core 2 Duo w/2gb. Clients at home and work are XP Pro SP3, though I'm probably either adding or converting to Vista 64 at home (assuming I master the UAC complexities) as I have MSDN Pro and want to use VPC to create app sandboxes. VS at home is [2003,2005,2008] of which 2008 is the one I am currently using, while work is still at 2003. I'll probably keep the server at 32-bit at home.
BTW, anyone have a suggestion on where to ask here about low-cost reasonble-perfomance graphics adapters for W2K3 Server 32-bit?
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cpkilekofp wrote: BTW, anyone have a suggestion on where to ask here about low-cost reasonble-perfomance graphics adapters for W2K3 Server 32-bit?
I have about 1 dozen of these (although none are on W2K3) and they work very well:
ASUS 256MB EN7200GS which is less than $40US
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121085[^]
John
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John M. Drescher wrote: I have about 1 dozen of these (although none are on W2K3) and they work very well:
The problem is, W2K3 (and W2K8) use a different, "safer" graphics interface. I have hundreds of cards available to me that run W2K/WXP, and a few of those run on W2K3-64, but the list that run on W2K3-32 is very small indeed.
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The only W2K3 box we have is using XP drivers from a medical imaging card and it works fine. I would normally plop one of the 7200GS cards in and test but we are in the middle of a research study so I can not mess with the machine.
John
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John M. Drescher wrote: The only W2K3 box we have is using XP drivers from a medical imaging card and it works fine. I would normally plop one of the 7200GS cards in and test but we are in the middle of a research study so I can not mess with the machine.
 not a problem, I know how that goes and deeply appreciate the good thought. Does "work fine" mean that I can run MS Flight Simulator on it? You see, other nVidia-based cards I've tried will run as an unknown adapter (completely ignoring the XP driver), providing basic but verrrrrry slow graphics.
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cpkilekofp wrote: Does "work fine" mean that I can run MS Flight Simulator on it?
Its definitely not a nVidia adapter. Its a $10K US medical imaging PCI-X adapter using a chip from a company (number 9) that went out of business years ago. And you surely can not run flight simulator on it. And not at the native resolution of 2K x 2.5K in multimonitor mode... But the 2D directdraw is just as fast in W2k3 as it is in XP.
BTW, for your nvidia adapter did you try the quadro drivers? That may work.
John
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John M. Drescher wrote: Its definitely not a nVidia adapter. Its a $10K US medical imaging PCI-X adapter using a chip from a company (number 9) that went out of business years ago. And you surely can not run flight simulator on it. And not at the native resolution of 2K x 2.5K in multimonitor mode... But the 2D directdraw is just as fast in W2k3 as it is in XP.
LOL I remember Number 9 when they were vying for fastest chipset back when Win95 OSR2 was the hottest WinOS in town...how times have changed. I use an ATI RAGE adapter which has only 8MB on my Win2k8 system now as it is at least partly compatible and can run Age of Empires II (if not MFS). Boards can be purchased that can get the graphics power that MFS requires, but they cost well over $1000.
John M. Drescher wrote: BTW, for your nvidia adapter did you try the quadro drivers? That may work.
Nope, failed completely.
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400MB mem footprint for running Eclipse, possibly due to the plugins, but VS2008 uses up a lot less RAM. The IDE for Websphere needs about 2GB of RAM.
VS2008 feels snappy and I didn't ever consider it a memory hog. Are others having memory usage issues?
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...to 4GB a month or so ago. RAM is insanely cheap now, and with three instances of VS2005, one of VS2008, Outlook, Firefox, a score of SciTE instances, SQL Server, and maybe another instance of Firefox... not to mention my own piggish software... it definitely makes life a bit easier.
Not a whole lot easier though.
Citizen 20.1.01 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
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1 GB DDR800 - Am going to buy a nice cheap 2GB DDR800 Chip soon 
* Updated - Thanks gri *
-= Reelix =-
modified on Monday, August 4, 2008 2:58 AM
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Reelix wrote: 1 GB DDR800 - Am going to be a nice cheap 2GB DDR800 Chip soon [Smile]
As my old english teacher told us: I went to McDonals and became a burger
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Shog9 wrote: my own piggish software
Link?
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Here there be dragons[^]
Citizen 20.1.01 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
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Looks like serious stuff. My ex is qualified in HVAC something or other.
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Paul Watson wrote: My ex is qualified in HVAC something or other.
Probably a good deal more qualified than i am. 
I tend to stick to the UI, some geometry, and the ugly plumbing that keeps it all sorta hanging together. The models it's built on have serious engineers behind them...
Citizen 20.1.01 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.'
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