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Re: You made it worse! Aaron Eldreth8-Jun-04 3:32 Aaron Eldreth 8-Jun-04 3:32  Marc Clifton wrote: Inevitably, two weeks later, after spilled coffee on the keyboard, three new viruses the kids accidentally download, and a lightning strike at the transformer down the street, who gets blamed for the new problems? Naturally, the last person to "fix" the computer! Well yeah, naturally. Do you think the people would admit that it was their own fault (or the fault of their kids) that their PC broke? Aaron Eldreth TheCollective4.com My Articles While much is too strange to be believed, Nothing is too strange to have happened. - T. Hardy Re: You made it worse! Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳11-Jun-04 1:11 Xiangyang Liu 刘向阳 11-Jun-04 1:11  I once took my computer to BestBuy, the floppy drive was not working. They shipped it to the factory and fixed it at no cost to me. They also told me that they found a broken pencil inside the floppy drive, the pencil was given back to me in a plastic bag. It rurns out that my younger son did that. My articles and software tools Re: You made it worse! Vega0216-Jun-04 6:15 Vega02 16-Jun-04 6:15  Hilarious! Really, though, it's awesome that they still fixed it for you at no cost. Many other companies that I've dealt with would have said "Tough luck" and charged for the cost of a new drive, including installation. Re: You made it worse! Jörgen Sigvardsson11-Jun-04 5:01 Jörgen Sigvardsson 11-Jun-04 5:01  Been there done that. All you have to say is "Well, the next time you want your computer fixed, either pay someone to do it, or do it yourself". That'll end the discussion rather quickly. -- Ich bin Joachim von Hassel, und ich bin Pilot der Bundeswehr. Welle: Erdball - F104-G Starfighter Ethics NormDroid7-Jun-04 21:56 NormDroid 7-Jun-04 21:56  When my friends do work on my house (1-2 days work), I expect them to bill me (discount for friends of course) and they do. Now when I get a phone call asking to me to come over to fix their PC, which usually takes a couple of hours at a time, should I bill them?, especially when the problem a virus or some nasty adware problem usually picked up from viewing prOn sites. Re: Ethics devvvy8-Jun-04 1:56 devvvy 8-Jun-04 1:56  Yes, you definitely should, "brother". Norman Fung Re: Ethics Navin10-Jun-04 5:18 Navin 10-Jun-04 5:18  Or work out a deal... "Fish and guests stink in three days." - Benjamin Franlkin Re: Ethics Michael Dunn10-Jun-04 8:29 Michael Dunn 10-Jun-04 8:29  At some point, if you don't ask for something in return, they will assume you'll fix anything for free. If you don't want to ask for money, use barter. Ask for pizza and beer, or your other food/beverage of choice. --Mike-- Personal stuff:: Ericahist | Homepage Shareware stuff:: 1ClickPicGrabber | RightClick-Encrypt CP stuff:: CP SearchBar v2.0.2 | C++ Forum FAQ ---- "That probably would've sounded more commanding if I wasn't wearing my yummy sushi pajamas."   -- Buffy Re: Ethics NormDroid10-Jun-04 23:24 NormDroid 10-Jun-04 23:24  I the past the favour has been return with an 8 pack of beer Re: Ethics RobJones11-Jun-04 5:08 RobJones 11-Jun-04 5:08  Never seen an 8 pack before, strange.. Whoever said nothing's impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! Re: Ethics NormDroid11-Jun-04 5:24 NormDroid 11-Jun-04 5:24  RobJones wrote: Never seen an 8 pack before, strange.. 2 x 4 Stella Artios 440ml (Gold Tops) Re: Ethics p daddy21-Jun-04 1:59 p daddy 21-Jun-04 1:59  norm.net wrote: 2 x 4 Stella Artios 440ml (Gold Tops) mmmmmm stella. i prefer Hoegaarden these days though.... Re: Ethics NormDroid21-Jun-04 4:27 NormDroid 21-Jun-04 4:27  p daddy wrote: i prefer Hoegaarden these days though.... Yeah white cloudy beer made with coriander, sounds revoluting, but tastes excellent (takes a few jars to get the taste) - Slurp Re: Ethics USMCmaggot11-Jun-04 5:05 USMCmaggot 11-Jun-04 5:05  Beer is the international form of currency (ITS LEGAL TENDER) Re: Ethics NormDroid11-Jun-04 5:26 NormDroid 11-Jun-04 5:26  You're cetain right about that one, beer talk $$$ and that's right around world. Re: Ethics Brett Slaski17-Jun-04 3:42 Brett Slaski 17-Jun-04 3:42  For a long time I have used a barter system with friends and others. I maintained a network at an auto body shop for around 5 years for return work on my car and bike. I would upgrade a server and have my car painted in return. Or install new workstations and have a timing belt replaced. It worked out real well for both of us and we didn't have to bother with those damn 1099's. Brett Slaski Re: Ethics icelava30-Oct-04 18:49 icelava 30-Oct-04 18:49  Usually friends won't pay you money out right. They're more likely (and it's more natural) to treat you a meal/drink or return you the favour via some other aspect where they're more skilled than you. Of course, i absolutely understand from first hand experience how irritating it can be for a person to repeatedly ask your help on the same issue over and over without _ever_ wanting to bother to solve him/herself despite the frequency. The melody of logic will always play out the truth. ~ Narumi Ayumu, Spiral Have some kids sdanis7-Jun-04 19:22 sdanis 7-Jun-04 19:22  Family stopped asking me about 10 years ago. They started asking my older son (who was 10 at the time). Took another 2 years to get the neighbors to ask him first. Now that my younger son is about to start college, I'm moving, 'cause I'm not about to start helping everyone again! Re: Have some kids Jon Newman7-Jun-04 21:10 Jon Newman 7-Jun-04 21:10  I actually got the opposite idea, I pass them on to my dad now. Sure he knows less about computers and is more likely to f*ck their hardware/software/life up. But he is at least willing to do so. Jonathan 'nonny' Newman blog.nonny.com [^] Re: Have some kids Colin Angus Mackay8-Jun-04 1:21 Colin Angus Mackay 8-Jun-04 1:21  Jonny Newman wrote: But he is at least willing to do so. Where there's a will there's a way! "You can have everything in life you want if you will just help enough other people get what they want." --Zig Ziglar The Second EuroCPian Event will be in Brussels on the 4th of September Can't manage to P/Invoke that Win32 API in .NET? Why not do interop the wiki way! My Blog Re: Have some kids Megan Forbes9-Jun-04 1:15 Megan Forbes 9-Jun-04 1:15  Great isn't it! I've found exactly the same - funny thing is, my Dad loves it! I have to leave the room however, as some of the things he comes out with are pretty scary, or would be if it was my pc he was talking about . I keep my laptop well away from him now! Look at the world about you and trust to your own convictions. - Ansel Adams Meg's World - Blog Photography ... and I hate it!!! Ungi.7-Jun-04 18:55 Ungi. 7-Jun-04 18:55  It is sooooooooo anoying!!! Always the same questions: - My computer doesn't boot, why?? And what shall I do now?? - My computer always shuts down after x minutes, why?? And what shall I do now?? An my favourite question: - Do you know how I could do this in microsoft word?? Re: ... and I hate it!!! Aaron Eldreth8-Jun-04 3:00 Aaron Eldreth 8-Jun-04 3:00  Ungi. wrote: My computer doesn't boot, why?? And what shall I do now? Tell them to try plugging in the power cord. Ungi. wrote: Do you know how I could do this in microsoft word?? Yes, but why should I tell you? Aaron Eldreth TheCollective4.com My Articles While much is too strange to be believed, Nothing is too strange to have happened. - T. Hardy Re: ... and I hate it!!! Ungi.8-Jun-04 3:22 Ungi. 8-Jun-04 3:22  oh yes, you are right. i think i am really too kind and too nice and read the f**** manual and do it for them in long evenings... Re: ... and I hate it!!! Krissh8-Jun-04 20:31 Krissh 8-Jun-04 20:31  >> Always the same questions: >> - My computer doesn't boot, why?? And what shall I do now?? >> - My computer always shuts down after x minutes, why?? And what shall I do now?? My brother in law lives half a world a way, and he still calls me .... = distance is irrelevant >> An my favourite question: >> - Do you know how I could do this in microsoft word?? My favourite answer, yes, but not in this old version.... (They always got the wrong version...) And one more thing... When I say: just click here, and here and it's fixed... thats when the screen goes black, or the harddisc goes eeeeeeeeeeek! or this funny smoke poors out the back of the computer. Why would one volontarily submit to such risks, with no insurance and no pay.. no way. Gupta Team Developer 3.1 VC++ 2003 Oracle 8i W2K-XP

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