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Re: VC6 is the best bneacetp13-Jan-04 22:21 bneacetp 13-Jan-04 22:21  String *strNet = S"llll"; CString strATL; strATL = strNet; //This will give compile error on my VS.NET 2002 String *strNet = S"llll"; CString strATL = strNet; //this works, weird That is some weird stuff... BNEACETP Re: VC6 is the best dog_spawn13-Jan-04 4:41 dog_spawn 13-Jan-04 4:41  Anonymous wrote: We only do c++ and MFC development C++ projects that do not use MFC benefit greatly from VS.NET 2003 IMO. This is mainly down to the compiler rather than the UI. Everything is better from standards support right down to error messages. Anonymous wrote: VS.NET is more crashy, slower and buggy. The UI is sluggish and badly designed I am another person who finds it better. The main improvement UI wise is the text editor and the debugger. However, this is only because my comp can run it at a decent speed. It must be horrible on an older comp. I can honestly say I have not seen crashes. But I have seen the odd 100% cpu use (only working on asp.net projects). I would guess I don't see many problems because I do not use the resource editor. Re: VC6 is the best Mazdak13-Jan-04 6:05 Mazdak 13-Jan-04 6:05  Mazy No sig. available now. Re: VC6 is the best Leifen13-Jan-04 6:52 Leifen 13-Jan-04 6:52  Sorry to disagree. VC6 is not a stable version. I used to use bookmarks and brief-emulation, which resulted in daily crashes. Intellisense surprisingly popups, sometimes. The class-tree frequently gets corrupted. The resource editor, well it was not so bad if you haven’t seen the resource handling in Visual Studio.Net. Although, a nice feature I miss is debug – apply code changes. Re: VC6 is the best dog_spawn13-Jan-04 11:50 dog_spawn 13-Jan-04 11:50  Leifen wrote: The class-tree frequently gets corrupted Yep. It was unusable with namespaces and folders in VC6. It would just forget them In VS2003 I have not found a single problem after I set that option that prevents it from jumping around. It took em a while, but I have to say, at last, MS got it right. For what I do anyway Re: VC6 is the best Nemanja Trifunovic13-Jan-04 8:52 Nemanja Trifunovic 13-Jan-04 8:52  I have mixed feelings about new IDE (it is too slow and unresponsive sometimes), but the fact that we have a decent Standard Library would be enough for me to switch, not to mention compiler improvements (VC 7.1 is 98% ISO compliant) and ATL Server. Re: VC6 is the best Anthony_Yio13-Jan-04 19:42 Anthony_Yio 13-Jan-04 19:42  And I really hate the attached MSDN. Sonork 100.41263:Anthony_Yio Re: VC6 is the best Navin15-Jan-04 10:45 Navin 15-Jan-04 10:45  Anonymous wrote: the resouce editor is really awful. Resources are so '90's. Most (if not all) of our new apps now use XML based resources and generate the UI on the fly. Sure, it was a big hit to code that all up the first time, but it's working quite well now. As for VS.NET - we are still on VS.NET 2002, and it's been a mixed bag. I think I do like the UI better, although it took a while. The compiler is mostly better. There are some annoying... how shall we say, issues, in the new MFC, but we hardly ever use MFC anymore these days. Unicode support is much better in VS.NET than in VC6. VC6 seemed to be more stable, though, as there are often little annoying things that come up from time to time that can drive me crazy. "I'd be up a piece if I hadn't swallowed my bishop." Mr. Ed, playing chess Older/Other Microsoft preinsko12-Jan-04 20:30 preinsko 12-Jan-04 20:30  We have mixed sites with both frameworks and classic therefore I still manage and edit my files in VS6 because I can. On the other hand I use VS 7(2002) for desktop applications. VS7 is too napoleonic to use for web site development. I prefer to create my classes and code behind in a different folder and I don't er won't use the designer so it is a waste of my energy and money. Pam Some days the Dragon wins!! Pamela Reinskou VersusLaw Inc. Non MS Env. Nitron12-Jan-04 12:06 Nitron 12-Jan-04 12:06  For those who chose the "Non-MS" option, what do you use? ~Nitron. ññòòïðïðB A start Re: Non MS Env. Jörgen Sigvardsson12-Jan-04 13:36 Jörgen Sigvardsson 12-Jan-04 13:36  IntelliJ and Sun J2EE/J2SE. -- I am perpetual, I keep the country clean. Re: Non MS Env. Anthony_Yio13-Jan-04 19:49 Anthony_Yio 13-Jan-04 19:49  IntelliJ, nice Sonork 100.41263:Anthony_Yio Re: Non MS Env. Nick Seng12-Jan-04 14:19 Nick Seng 12-Jan-04 14:19  We're using Universe for both database and back-end processing. "if you vote me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" - Michael P. Butler. Support Bone It's a weird Life Re: Non MS Env. Michael P Butler12-Jan-04 21:19 Michael P Butler 12-Jan-04 21:19  Nick Seng wrote: We're using Universe for both database and back-end processing. My sympathies Michael But you know when the truth is told, That you can get what you want or you can just get old, Your're going to kick off before you even get halfway through. When will you realise... Vienna waits for you? - "The Stranger," Billy Joel Re: Non MS Env. Nick Seng13-Jan-04 14:26 Nick Seng 13-Jan-04 14:26  My thanks. "if you vote me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine" - Michael P. Butler. Support Bone It's a weird Life Re: Non MS Env. Maxwell Chen12-Jan-04 15:07 Maxwell Chen 12-Jan-04 15:07  Linux Maxwell Chen Re: Non MS Env. Nitron13-Jan-04 1:06 Nitron 13-Jan-04 1:06  Maxwell Chen wrote: Linux Oh man, c'mon; think of the penguins! ~Nitron. ññòòïðïðB A start Re: Non MS Env. John M. Drescher13-Jan-04 10:33 John M. Drescher 13-Jan-04 10:33  That's interesting. And you still find this site of great use? John Re: Non MS Env. Maxwell Chen13-Jan-04 15:47 Maxwell Chen 13-Jan-04 15:47  There are two teams in our company, Windows and Linux. I belong to Windows team. Maxwell Chen Re: Non MS Env. Navin12-Jan-04 15:40 Navin 12-Jan-04 15:40  Perl and Notepad. Although I guess Notepad should be considered an MS environment... and a quite popular one at that. Fortunately this was a multiple select poll, because for various reasons we also use VC .NET 2002, as well as VC 6 (although that's only for digging out legacy stuff anymore. I don't even think I have a machine with it installed any more...) No single raindrop believes that it is responsible for the flood. Re: Non MS Env. Matt Newman12-Jan-04 17:11 Matt Newman 12-Jan-04 17:11  Formerly python. Currently jEdit for my current coms class (started today) Matt Newman If you chose to continue this discussion, I am fully prepared to make you my bitch. I invite you to ask around, and you'll find out that I'm quite capable of doing so - John Simmons on Trolls Re: Non MS Env. Rob Caldecott12-Jan-04 21:36 Rob Caldecott 12-Jan-04 21:36  Some guys here are using Watcom. Shudder. The Rob Blog Re: Non MS Env. nxtwothou13-Jan-04 12:58 nxtwothou 13-Jan-04 12:58  That's nothing, I'm still using BC++ v5.02 to maintain the older projects/web apps. But all our new software is with VS.Net 2002/3 Re: Non MS Env. Gavin Greig12-Jan-04 23:40 Gavin Greig 12-Jan-04 23:40  I didn't select the option, but should have. As well as VC6 and VS2k3 I also use Metrowerks CodeWarrior (for Palm OS). Gavin Greig "Haw, you're no deid," girned Charon. "Get aff ma boat or ah'll report ye." Matthew Fitt - The Hoose O Haivers: The Twelve Trauchles O Heracles. Re: Non MS Env. zero.sg13-Jan-04 0:38 zero.sg 13-Jan-04 0:38  msvc 6 vb6 gcc/MinGW python 2.3 (from time to time) batch files notepad cmd.exe

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