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Yep.. Obective-C is ugly code. Windows Phone 8 is best choice
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Same here, I have a Titan love Windows Phone. I'd like to get a WP8 but I've not even had this phone a year yet. I wish WP8 was available as an upgrade from 7.5.
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Agree that Objective-C looks so very unpleasant!
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It makes calls, browses the inter-web thingy, checks email, has SMS and I can keep a few notes and dates on it with contacts, etc. It also has a decent camera and can record, store and play videos and things - although I don't use it for that. I also read books on it - I have 20 or 30 loaded from my collection at any given time and it has a really efficient interface. The battery lasts a long time and the back light works fine.
It has a keyboard (with real buttons) and a very good screen. I got it a year ago after I accidentally broke my previous Blackberry (two+ years old) - which did exactly the same and looked almost exactly the same. I am quite happy with what I have and I won't bother changing it unless it breaks or AT&T goes down - even then I can switch out the sim card to a new provider. What more do I need - I don't use half of what it can do. I don't need a million, or however many, "apps" - all the ones I have were free and came with the phone or were freely downloaded (Google maps - which is excellent and MobiPocket Reader for the books) - I have DropBox but I am going to dump that as I don't need it on my phone.
Oh, it also works with Tether to give me a wireless modem for my home PC (I used that when my cable went down for few days). It just works.
I defy anyone to convince me that any iPhone is worth the effort, never mind the money! BTW. I dislike touch-screens on phones, they get dirty and unresponsive and I don't want to do things just because I put the phone in my pocket, sit down or stand up. My friend constantly calls me on fast-dial because of that!
- Life in the fast lane is only fun if you live in a country with no speed limits.
- Of all the things I have lost, it is my mind that I miss the most.
- I vaguely remember having a good memory...
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Couldn't agree more.
I had a series 2 ipod - it was the single least-satisfying electronics item I ever had the displeasure of owning. It was $800 yet sounded worse than my Sony walkmans of the early to mid nineties. (which I spent no more than $315ea on)
I've been similarly unimpressed by the specs vs price on all of their computing gear before and since. I just don't get it, really I don't.
As for the photos, absolutely no comparison. Your photos look like 'normal' photos, the one your friend took looks like all of those horrible iPhone videos - grainy, poorly exposed, awful colour balance and fidelity.
But then again, I guess popular culture never was particularly brilliant - just popular.
OT:
Thought I recognised you! Lovely to see another fellow RCer hanging out here.  If I ever see Chellie here I'll just about die from shock!
(I'm user# 42959 over there)
Simon.
Make it work. Then do it better - Andrei Straut
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Not getting an iPhone as I'm looking forward to a Windows Phone 8.
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I used to think that phones were only to place calls and be done. Now that the enterprise has given us Windows Phone 7.5 Nokias, gotta say my life has changed. I will never in the foreseeable future use any phone without Windows Phone.
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Now a Galaxy is a definite especially with Jelly Bean installed! yum.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Windows Phone is the only OS well suited for my clumsy fingers. With iOS or Android I keep missing the icons 
I like the iPhone hardware, though. If I could install Windows OS there I might switch. Until then, it is Nokia Lumia for me.
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Good point. After using my WP7 for 2 years now, I struggle whenever I have to use an iPhone.
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... to obtain a special dialing wand, please mash the keypad now."
-- Telco recording
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To paraphrase an answer to a different question....
"No. No! ****, no! I believe you get your *** kicked for buying something like that."
-- Office Space (sort of)
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...to develop on. At this time I don't see any compelling feature or technology that the 5 offers that suit my company’s needs. For now the 4 suffices for our purposes.
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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Yes, because it works and I have no reason to change.
The few applications that I use (and paid for) work, the music player works, the phone works ...
Watched code never compiles.
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UI design is a matter of fashion like anything else.
Just because Apple are trend setters doesnt mean they should own the trends they start.
And the patents they use to bully the market with, should never have been granted in the first place.
'Pinch to zoom' is logical considering the abilities of the interface.
'Snap back' when sliding past the last screen is hardly an engineering wonder.
Admittedly i am an Android fanboi, but even so, the more Apple fights, the less i like them.
I did once consider buying an iPhone, but it's out of the question now, and will remain so until they stop their anti-competitive practises.
modified 10-Sep-12 6:52am.
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Apple recently patented a method for disabling its phone (camera and comms) based on the their geographic locations. This means the government can do it when it wants to stifle civilian reporting of specific events.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: stifle civilian reporting of specific events
Poaching wildlife with an AK47? 
Why can't I be applicable like John? - Me, April 2011
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Beidh ceol, caint agus craic againn - Seán Bán Breathnach
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Da mihi sis crustum Etruscum cum omnibus in eo!
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Just because a thing is new don’t mean that it’s better - Will Rogers, September 4, 1932
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The US patent office needs to be used for target practice, by the artillery.
There are apps around that has done that for years.
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You're kidding... right? 
If the government wants to stifle civilian reporting of certain events they're gonna kill all cellular traffic at its source not single out a specific handset manufacturer.
If you're afraid of Apple and the iPhone because it somehow threatens your ability to make a living selling Microsoft's stuff just say so.
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When I buy something I like to feel that it's mine.
With Apple products this is hardly true.
I don't want to engage on a firefight here about this, I'm just stating what I feel.
Apple environment is too close, too proprietary for me.
Seems like many people like it... many don't... it's life.
Another fact that is keeping me away from Apple stuff is the feature/price ratio.
Apple harware is always over priced if you look at the harware specs.
So no Apple gadgets on my side. 
Cheers!
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That's quite a crowd of Apple sceptics out there 
BTW, I also checked (Hell)"no" because I'm very happy with my Milestone 2.
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... as Apple claims so
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