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Wow... you guys make all kinds of incorrect assumptions and right now I am so angry that I may just quit this forum myself after being a member for years. I have NEVER been treated this way here before. No need to kick me off. This is a legitimate question. I only use this forum when I need help. I am programming it myself if I can. I don't want help with the actual programming if I can avoid it so I am not looking for programmers. You people don't even have the expertise I am looking for so bug off. Otherwise answer my question. I just need some advice.
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pr1mem0ver wrote: I am so angry that I may just quit this forum ... You people don't even have the expertise I am looking for so bug off
Thanks for sharing how you really feel.
And, what a nice surprise to know you plan on patenting whatever you are talking about.
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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LOL. IF I remain on this site, I will post the patent here when I get it. If I am able to finish the project, it will happen. I love how you all feel your experience in programming entitles you to points. I find it terribly ironic I can upvote my own comments. Honestly, I don't give a rats butt about my reputation here. I only come to help myself and others in repayment. It's really a shame that folks like you pick and choose to ruin it for other people. You guys continue to make erroneous assumptions about everything under the sun, talking about everything EXCEPT the answer to the question I asked. After this crap treatment I won't bother coming here again to ask questions. So rest easy and pat yourself on the back for making your point on a job well done. I also won't have anything nice to say about this forum anymore. I know you don't care but oh well... can't help that. I am an elementary school teacher for Pete's sake.
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It either has to be something that really appeals to someone's altruism, or it has to be financial.
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Actually both apply here. Honestly, I am having difficulty with the pricing model because yes... what I am building will provide a much needed resource in education and instructional design (both public and private) and I don't want people to have to pay significant sums of money for the "much needed" aspect of what I am building. At the same time, it would be nice to make some money because as a teacher I get paid relatively little.
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LOL. I am not this vague when talking to people about the actual project. I already have two other people who seem rather interested in working on it and have asked me to let them know when I am ready to go. I am being vague here because most details aren't really necessary to share and because the project (end result) will be patented. I can't exactly discuss specific details on a public forum if I want to file for a patent. Whatever details people need to be shared I will share if asked for (and don't require me to be too explicit in detail).
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pr1mem0ver wrote: I am being vague here because most details aren't really necessary to share and because the project (end result) will be patented.
You're getting assumptions because of the description you already gave and the lack of detail on it. If you're not getting the answers you want, that's on you for being so vague.
Remember this, and it applies to all forums, not just CP. The quality of the answers you get is directly dictated by the quality of the questions you ask.
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I asked a single, non-specific question. "Any pointers on where to get started?" Yes. I know I was "vague" in the details. I was that way on purpose given the nature of the project. However, I feel I gave enough to answer the question by giving a basic run-down of the kind of application it was. I ask and people just assume I am recruiter misusing the forum. I am also not asking a detailed question, nor am I looking for a detailed answer (which I realize is probably not in line with the default around here). Just pointers; a basic idea for me to look up. I don't need specifics. I can find them myself. I even gave an example in the "details" of the kind of answer I was looking for: "client-server." If people focused on the question as is rather than "details" there would be fewer conflicts and frustrations. If one needs specifics to answer the question, then ask. It's that simple. The first person to answer (Pete) asked a legitimate question looking for details and I answered him with the details he needed. No problems on either side. He also didn't assume a negative spin, even in his later comment in which he suggested I was either altruistic or motivated by money.
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It sounds very much like you're trying to replicate Git/DevOps/or other SVN, like Subversion (open source).
Why reinvent the wheel when you can use a system that's already made to do the job?
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: It sounds very much like you're trying to replicate Git/DevOps/or other SVN, like Subversion (open source).
Why reinvent the wheel when you can use a system that's already made to do the job?
Because once again you are making erroneous assumptions. You aren't even in the correct industry. How do you get that out of this (from my original post)?
In the end it would work somewhat similar to a code management system but it isn't code being developed and that comparison is somewhat superficial. A centralized system harvests tasks (based on information gathered) from the internet and those tasks get distributed among specialists to look at the data, standardize it, format it, build upon it, and submit it for integration into the main "fork"/trunk so to speak.
Code management systems don't "harvest" data from the internet (at least not "en masse"... not at all as far as I am aware). Instead, people post "data" (code, feedback, comments, etc...) The closest thing (VERY superficial and still in a different ballpark altogether, though it is the same industry,) is iReady which you probably haven't even heard of. I am not in the coding industry. I am not a professional programmer (though I am capable enough). If all you are going to do is speculate about my purpose rather than help by answering my question original question "Any pointers to get me started?", then please stop posting.
EDIT: Just as an FYI, the end game (public product) isn't even the software I am writing (project for which I am trying to find an approach for/asking about). The software/project I am currently doing is a development tool for the Team ONLY (and possibly for other "users" who eventually want to mod/contribute to the end product being created... the likes of which doesn't exist at all).
modified 30-Jul-23 21:07pm.
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pr1mem0ver wrote: How do you get that out of this (from my original post)?
Quite easily actually. It sounds very much like a source control system, especially when you got to the point where you said:
pr1mem0ver wrote: and submit it for integration into the main "fork"/trunk so to speak.
I'm not the only one who thought this either. I asked around the shop and everyone agreed with me.
Like I said, Subversion is open source and if you had given this three second of thought, you could have said "Yeah, I'll look into it the source for it and see if that gives me any ideas."
But, you do you...
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1. You didn't answer my question... didn't even try. Instead you try to justify your lack of trying by appealing to obscure implications.
2. I explicitly stated in my original post (and quoted) that the resemblance is superficial. You made the choice to not believe me.
3. This is a C# forum. Subversion is written in C++. Which I can sort of follow... but with great difficulty when it comes to try and find a single feature in such a complex set of code.
4. You are focusing on your own approach to solving my problem rather than trusting me to know what I need. Much of the groundwork code for the application (including the data miner) has ALREADY been written and works reasonably well. I only need to know how to enable multiple users to manipulate data from files on a single source at once. I don't need a giant solution which is superficially related to solve a single problem. Especially when I am just asking about an approach. Maybe a different title to this issue would have worked better but I am only human (and not a professional programmer).
EDIT: Someone who was helpful on another forum suggested that the approach may be similar to Subversion (he used Git as his example) even if the resemblance is superficial. Yet he still managed to focus on my question and actually partially answer it on the first try (still in confirming what he said) instead of wading through all this... uh... crap. That was all I needed. You could have at the very least, explained yourself. I only didn't "give it three seconds of thought" because I am not "trying to replicate Git/DevOps/or other SVN" as you and other people have assumed and from all appearances, that was the reasoning behind your suggestion.
modified 31-Jul-23 0:10am.
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Sounds like Sharepoint Online. For $5 per month per user.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Is there a way to have a windows form and add web controls to be able to use the bullet style change styles without needing for it to be on the web? I am new to programming and do not know asp.net, html, or WPF to do it one of those ways. Thank you
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To answer the question "can you use web controls in a Windows forms app?", to keep things simple, no, you can't.
As Richard said, if you need to display bulleted data, you can look into a RichTextBox control. If you need to display something else, you're going to have to describe, in detail, what you want to display and in what format.
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Technically, you can, although I would recommend against it. If you need a dynamic website, then you're going to need a webserver somewhere. If, however, your webpage is static, you can simply host a webcontrol in your form and point it at a local index.html file and that would be displayed.
Saying that, while you could technically do this; save yourself a lot of pain, and use a RichTextBox instead.
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That's why I said "to keep things simple".
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I have used a great resource for something similar. It doesn't support everything (such as css) but if you are looking to create html aware forms in Windows.Forms, the HTMLRenderer NuGet packages are perfect (you may be stuck with .NET Framework as the support for .NET Core is questionable). It is also specific to HTML 4.1. I believe it does support bulleted lists as long as you don't mind that you can't use CSS. (It says it can but CSS is only partially implemented so many of its features do not work).
EDIT: Here is an image of an example control I made with these packages which make use of bulleted lists:
ibb.co/6b4JSJQ
[edit]Link made visible (your choice if you follow it, but it seems to be some link shortening image site) : OriginalGriff[/edit]
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Be careful when posting links (especially links that look like link shorteners) - your original held what is called a "hidden link": no text so the link can't be seen, much less clicked on. Normally, that would have been an open-and-shut moderation, and your account would disappear as a spammer.
If you must post image links, then expect two things: lots of moderation and false positive reports against you - particularly when the link looks like yours does and you can't tell what is at the other end. In deference to your length of membership, I spun up a VM to check it, but many will not want to do that and will report your account as spam instead. That will mean you get shown the door ... so it's in your interest not to look suspicious!
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Ok... thanks for the heads up. I copied the embedded link provided to me by imgbb, not aware of this issue. I wanted to just embed an image but there doesn't seem to be a direct way to do that. I just wanted to demonstrate the capabilities of the solution I was proposing. The software I showed in the picture isn't even available... (at least not yet), so I am not sure how that could qualify as spam (other than in appearance).
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You can't post images directly, except in a very limited number of (highly policed) forums - this is a SFW site and nobody wants your corporate net nazis to get offended by some of the images that would get posted ... we have visitors that would post some truely offensive images if given the chance ... 
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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I've just seen you post, so sorry for the late reply.
The answer is yes, you can. Blazor WASM (Web Assembly) enables you to do just that. I have written an article recently that demonstrates this with WPF, however WinForms can do the same. Here is the article: Blazing.Mvvm - Blazor WASM & Blazor Hybrid using the Community Toolkit[^] - ignore the fact that the article focuses on MVVM. The key thing for you, in the article, is not only proof of concept, but also how you can interact with the Blazor part from within your WinForms app and vice versa. IT is made possible by the BlazorWebView control.
Microsoft have an article that shows you how to host Blazor within WinForms: Build a Windows Forms Blazor app | Microsoft Learn[^].
Be aware though, to do this, you need to work with .Net 7.0+, not .Net Framework. However, if you need to move from .Net Framework to .Net, then your app will receive an immediate performance boost due to improvements made to .Net - no legacy support.
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
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