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Gopika Ravikumar wrote: Rude of you to assume that someone else is "playing games".
I was referring to the people who come here expecting others to do their work for them. Examples can be found in the Quick Answers forum every day.
Gopika Ravikumar wrote: In case you don't understand, I don't want anyone else to do my work
The question at Database design for a project - Database Discussion Boards[^] certainly give the impression that you do. And your original post in this thread complains that your team mates are all lazy, but does not explain what you have done or where you are stuck.
Gopika Ravikumar wrote: If you do not wanna help, then don't.
I have never made such a statement. But how can anyone help when you have not bothered to ask an actual question.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: The question at Database design for a project - Database Discussion Boards[^] certainly give the impression that you do. And your original post in this thread complains that your team mates are all lazy, but does not explain what you have done or where you are stuck.
I just gave a basic description of what my work was. It was my fault for phrasing my question like that. It wasn't really my intention to make somebody else do my work or anything.. and this is my first time here so I was just checking if there was someone willing to help. What I got was rude comments, and I stopped coming to this site altogether. So yeah I understand I must be more specific so that some people don't get the wrong impression.
Anyway, the whole thing is over and the problem was solved. So there is no point in further discussion. Have a great day.
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Yeah!! you are absolutely right!! After I saw that persons rude comment, I stopped coming to this site altogether.
I was seriously discouraged and felt bad. Anyway its all in the past..
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Hey! Thank you so much for offering to help. You are an amazing person.. I have successfully completed my project despite the difficulties. Have a nice day!! 
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Yayy..I completed this project by myself and everything kind of went well... 
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Congrats Its a bad luck you got lazy or careless Team. Also it may be learning curve for you.
Don't get upset by the old members here. Its that they think we don't give effort and simply post all our codes when stuck. There have been a few people that do it its all about newbie mistakes. As they come across more and more people do it they may get over their cool selves.
I also had experienced this type of things when I started my career and wanted to get things fast.
I don't even know how to do a certain thing and post it in hope someone will help but here I had few bad experience.
LK
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I should have mentioned this before but I did not think sufficiently of it.
It looks like you are willing to accept a load of responsibility that is upon you. Good. Be the "i" in every team that you are on. The weak minded cannot see that i in team because they are not it. It looks like you already know that you are it. OK, so, force yourself to succeed while (inadvertantly) dragging the complainers, whiners, and lazy forward to success. Let them fail on their own time. This is your time to succeed.
Yes, I complain and while myself.  Thank you for giving the chance to see that. I shall work on removing that from my own preferrendums.
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I think that the commentators were unnecessarily rude. For a college student, it seems like quite a dilemma when you don't want to have bad grades but your teammates aren't as motivated as you. My take on this is that you're studying for yourself, not for a grade. In my 8+ year career, nobody cared about my college grades at all.
Anyways, congrats on completing the project
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First boss lasted one whole week.
Second and Third bosses (dual reporting) were awesome for the next 9 months. First time a dual reporting relationship that actually worked and worked very well. Two great individuals who communicated both with each other and with me.
4th boss is a jerk. Oh well. So 4th boss wanted another layer of management between himself and his minions. Brings on an new manager between us. Without any interview process without any warning. New mid-level boss started today.
Like/Love the job and the co-workers and greatly believe in the product. BUTTTTTTTTT........
Feeling a little jerked around right now.
Advice thoughts?
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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What happened to bosses 1 through 3? If you're at a larger company, you might look for an internal transfer if boss 2 or 3 is still around and boss 5 doesn't work out. It sounds like boss 4 is going to become boss 5's problem, not yours. And that boss 4 or his boss is incompetent, because boss 4 was put in a position where he was supposed to manage your group but couldn't.
modified 1-Mar-22 20:34pm.
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Any changes since the initial post? IS there a chance for compromise or even for you to grow in the company?
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don't really want to grow(other than my own brain). I am at a smaller organization so growth would take me out of IT and that is not something I would even consider were it even possible. don't get me wrong I like new challenges. But I am made for Programming and solving tech issues. I am not made for other jobs.
5th boss is actually turning out to be ok. But worried that his bosses don't see him in that light. Trying to help with that(keep your bosses boss off your bosses back). The Company is facing some definite issues with the economy and other things related to that. So just trying to keep my head down.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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so word today. 6th leadership change. oh my goodness. tempted to stay just to see where this is going to go.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
modified 15-Jul-22 15:08pm.
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this is just crazy. absolutely crazy. But heck they are still paying me right?
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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I have worked at Amazon for two years. My boss Tom has been bullying me since the outbreak of the epidemic. Do Americans have the ability to think seriously about things? Do you really believe in some crooks? Even if I am Asian, I am still a loyal subordinate, which is really bad!
modified 6-Sep-22 12:04pm.
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doesn't matter who you are! Period! if you do your job you should be rewarded at the very least with the assurance that you are doing your job. Your boss is an idiot. Sorry about that. But in this climate with the amount of decent jobs out there. I would be looking for a new job. You deserve to be treated with respect. No matter what.
PS I wish I was hiring. Loyalty should always be rewarded.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Harassment based on race is specifically illegal in the US.
"Asian" is specifically identified as a race.
Standards for Maintaining, Collecting, and Presenting Federal Data on Race and Ethnicity | U.S. Department of the Interior[^]
magdalenatristan wrote: My boss Tom has been bullying me since the outbreak of the epidemic.
Write down each incident in detail in documentation that you keep outside of work. Time, date, content of what was said. Any other relevant details.
You could record every conversation on your phone but you must FIRST check the laws in the state where you live since some states require that both parties be aware of the recording. The laws are criminal so you must check that first.
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jschell wrote: Harassment based on race is specifically illegal in the US.
Unless you are a Democrat. 
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Well no one should be fired based on their ethnic background. Sounds like your manager is a real jerk and you should report him to HR or his manager.
At the end of the day that's the reason large companies like that have an HR dept in general. To make sure they are protected from liability issues and it sounds like that manager is a liability issue.
Good luck~
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Haven't heard Tom's version.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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This is the most unethical thing to do and now when everyone says that we are united and we respect each other's culture and values then this is not at all acceptable. As far as an employee is considered then if they are loyal and sincere towards their work they should be given equal respect and appreciation.
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