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They provided the breakthrough in data compression (loss-less) which greatly improved network traffic. This was one of the lessons we learned in GRAD school. Our professor was keenly interested in this area of research. Really smart man. Had 3 PHD's, math, computer science, electrical engineering. I was fortunate to have him as mentor.
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Green * is a scam. It's just a way to move funds and sell trends, just like vegan products and homeopathy / crystallotherapy / younameit.
Don't get me wrong, moving away from fossil fuels and getting sustainable energy is necessary in this power hungry society (though I still have to understand why a US house needs more thn 3 times the power available to an Italian house, considering we do use the same appliances). But the trend of geen everything sold on partial data and preconception, that is a scam full stop.
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Yeah - my electricity supplier swears blind that all my power comes from renewable, green sources.
Doesn't stop the price doubling every time the gas market burps though ... 
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If we were in the USA, I'd almost be inclined to think their idea of "green energy" was "burning money". 
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It would probably be cheaper to heat the house that way. 
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In Italian money laundering is called money recycling. I'd say they are very much green in that regard 
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What does the USA have to do with this?
It IS the UK and they are figuratively "burning money" while lying to you. Face it, the UK energy weasels are just as corrupt and self-serving as all the worlds energy weasels. You're not special.
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fgs1963 wrote: What does the USA have to do with this?
In the USA, dollar bills are green. In the UK, the closest you can get is the bluey-green of the five pound note.
Given the current state of our energy bills, we're currently closer to "red/brown" energy[^]. 
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That is called fireworks!
Easy to convert hundreds of dollars into smoke.
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den2k88 wrote: (though I still have to understand why a US house needs more thn 3 times the power available to an Italian house, considering we do use the same appliances).
The other night we had -21C, try to top this in Italy (apart from the Alps). Summers down south are hot. Also, our houses are bigger, and the average household is more populated - 3 kids are quite common. Let's not forget a lot of refrigerators - we are big. Need food 
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Single Step Debugger wrote: -21C, try to top this in Italy (apart from the Alps).
Guess where I live? I had easily -28, we use either gas or in rural areas pellet or wood. Never had any issue.
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Yeah, but this is not typical for Italy, is it? The other thing I forgot to mention - most Americans live in houses, while Italians in apartment buildings. And the buildings are more energy efficient with smaller rooms, lower ceiling and the new ones are well insulated.
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As I said below, 3 kW is also for hoises of 3600 square feet. A residential house has 3 kW, 6 if you ask for the EV charging station but 3 of those can ONLY be used by the charging station.
And going to -20 is common for at least a third of the nation.
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Got it. More than third of the Italians live in Siberia like conditions, in three store houses and only use two microwaves worth of electricity. Cool.
BTW, just checked - the average annual electricity consumption per capita is twice more in US than Italy, not three times. And Italy has less consumption than the average in EU (again, mild climate).
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Additionally Italy has another thing that a big % of the US doesn't: Humidity
That makes the cold feeling a few degrees lower than the temperature marks. You can ask UKians for that.
Continental cold is easier to fight against.
In Germany I wear the same clothes for -15 or -20 than in my home town in Spain I would wear by 0 or +1, and I feel it colder in Spain than in Germany
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The thing is, heating systems are not based on subjective feelings, but on calories needed to counteract the outside temperature. You may think Spain is the harsher environment on the planet, but your monthly utility bills beg to differ.
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Don’t forget the pool!
Pumps use a lot of power!
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den2k88 wrote: though I still have to understand why a US house needs more thn 3 times the power available to an Italian house
Lot of American live in super unnecessary huge houses because bigger is better; they've been told they NEED the 5000 square feet house with sooooo many bedrooms and bathrooms and multi car garage to be recognized as a successful person consummer capitalist.
European usually use smaller appliances; they've had to adapt to higher energy cost and traditionally smaller residential space. have you seen the latest washers and dryers ? even if they are energy efficient, they are probably twice as big as the previous generation appliances
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My parents' 3 floors house, 400 square meters, still has a 3kW power supply and it's still enough, since heating is not done through electricity and AC is used only when necessary and only in the bedrooms.
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den2k88 wrote: though I still have to understand why a US house needs more thn 3 times the power available to an Italian house, considering we do use the same appliances
Because we can. We like our space. It's all part of Manifest Destiny. Big houses, big cars, big screens.
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Amen buddy. Having less emissions in the air is always a great thing, but these deals are all based on lies and scams to put money in certain people's pockets. Rather unfortunate.
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I know for a few cases when green energy companies sponsored from EU, are buying cheaper energy from nuclear or goal powerplants, resell it as a "green" and pocket the difference.  I'm all "green", but there are a lot of scam schemes milking our good intentions.
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Corruption and abuse is sadly an international problem, it is never a question of "IF" but of "How big" 
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