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OriginalGriff wrote: I remember you used to be able to get low profile mounting studs for mobos - if it's that tight it might be worth seeing if they are still available? Been a very long time since I needed them though!
Changing the standoff hieght would mean your back panel IO won't line up with the back of the case anymore. A few blocked USB ports probably isn't the end of the world, but you'd also be unable to fully install a PCIe card; and fixing that would require a lot more work than just cutting a bigger hole.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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What files and hack saws are for (I use my Dremel tools).
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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honey the codewitch wrote: It's going to be tight, assuming it fits.
Sounds like a good time 
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Oh my!
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I would think that a larger case (if necessary) would be a lot cheaper and less hassle than trying to re-spec. everything else.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I just bought this case last december and it is the best chassis I've ever owned by a large margin. They do have a larger version of it, but I don't have room for it, and it's so heavy I'd probably have to put it on the floor, which I am loath to do on account of dust and such. This line of chassis are all tempered glass, so they are beautiful but heavy as heck.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I just built two new machines and everything is so easy today as long as things fit!
However I always use tower or Mid-tower cases and they always go on the floor. I also prefer high air flow cases over tight enclosures, this was learned from building dual processor systems years ago. Dual Xeon systems would generate far too much heat for anything but high air flow.
For the new systems I used a Corsair 7000d airflow and a Corsair 5000d airflow. Both cases a very nice and a pleasure to build in. I care little about looking at the stuff, but care more about cooling it all.
Good luck with your new system! I hope everything fits and your build goes smoothly.
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Three dinosaurs are running across the desert when they stumble upon a magic lamp.
They rub it, and a genie appears.
"I have three wishes, so I'll give one to each of you," the genie announces.
The first dinosaur thinks hard.
"Alright," he says, "I'll have a big, juicy, piece of meat."
Instantly, the biggest, juiciest piece of meat he'd ever seen appears in front of him.
Not to be outdone, the second dinosaur thinks even harder.
"I know! I'll have a shower of meat!"
Immediately, huge pieces of meat rain down around him.
The third dinosaur, certainly not to be outdone, thinks harder than the previous dinosaurs.
"I've got it!" he cries, "I want a MEATIER shower!"
I'm sorry. I'll show myself out. 
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Where did the magic lamp come from?
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From ![Green Alien | [Alien]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/alien.gif)
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I'm picturing T-Rexes trying rub the lamp. 
// TODO: Insert something here Top ten reasons why I'm lazy
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So, I'm in Visual Studio, and I have been coding 3 hours straight when <insert interruption="" of="" choice="" occurs="">. For me, my grandson, who is a 2 foot tall Jedi, comes in to say hi, and tries to start pushing all of grandpa's office buttons. He's a cute bugger, so 15 minutes later of defense and hugs, "what the elephant was I doing?"
So, I go back to VS and hit ctrl-z, many times, then ctrl y to put it all back.
This morning, I'm in outlook, and I delete two emails. Email 1 I need, email 2 can stay gone. ctrl-z - email 2 comes back. ctrl z, it goes away again. ctrl z, it's back.
For some company that CONSTANTLY elephants with user interfaces for "improvement", you'd think, you'd THINK, they would drive some consistency.
Pants on head stupid.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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The office team isn't like the rest of Microsoft, but they're bringing in the dough, so no one is going to tell them off.
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Considering the amount of users and technical debt the Office team needs to contend with, I don't envy them but I do respect their skills.
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You're quite right.
One have to differentiate between the marketing team and the programming team at the office department.
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And Ctrl-F behaves differently in Outlook as well.
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And F5 doesn't refresh the mail - that's F9 just to be damned annoying. 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: And F5 doesn't refresh the mail - that's F9 just to be damned annoying.
Chrome is CTRL-R ... lol
Graeme
"I fear not the man who has practiced ten thousand kicks one time, but I fear the man that has practiced one kick ten thousand times!" - Bruce Lee
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charlieg wrote: For some company that CONSTANTLY elephants with user interfaces for "improvement",
My interpretation is that marketing and not user usability is more likely the driving factor for that.
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jschell wrote: My interpretation is that marketing and not user usability is more likely the driving factor for that.
That explains it. In my experience, Marketing never improves anything. All they are good for is comparing feature lists, and insisting that we implement all features present in competitors' products, no matter how useless they may be.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I don't consider it that harshly. What users want (versus need) is often a driving factor in initial sales and that pays the bills. So marketing and sales are needed for that.
But other than that Word is the driving standard at this time. So it is unlikely to be a comparison so much as they need to come up with something new just to encourage people to buy a newer version. That is true in other industries like cars.
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Last week I created an email. Hit 'send.' That was followed by a long, awkward pause. Then the email disappeared, so I assumed it was sent.
Found out that our ISP had dropped out for a bit, coinciding with the not-so-pregnant pause. Email was gone - not in sent folder, nor on the server as sent (IMAP copy-to rule). Not in drafts, nor anywhere else I looked.
This is an 2010 Outlook installation, so can't be blamed on newest team members, but still.... 
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David O'Neil wrote: Email was gone - not in sent folder, nor on the server as sent (IMAP copy-to rule). Not in drafts, nor anywhere else I looked.
If this were in a work environment, I would get rid of any program that "processed" data by losing it. You can't afford to have data going missing without some indication that something went wrong.
(For home use, that would depend on the utility of the program and the frequency of "glitches" of this sort.)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I agree with you. That fact that it happened with Outlook really surprised me, because even the 2010 version has to have had a lot of the bugs worked out of it. But there are things in Outlook I need that I haven't seen in Mozilla, and I don't have the bucks to investigate other programs.
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When you partake of the MS world, you play by their rules:
1. You can't win.
2. You can't break even.
3. You can't get out of the game.
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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