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kmoorevs wrote: maybe a bonfire!
Let's get together so I can add all of my outdated computer books to the fire!
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Me too. Cleaning the office.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I've worked from home for over 20 years. It used to be: L-shaped desk with drawers under long side for bank statements, signed contracts, specs (filed in hanging folders alphabetically by client), envelopes, copy invoices etc. Underneath was a mini-tower and a server. On top, a laptop, Mac Mini, 2x wall-mounted 17" monitors, in-tray / out-tray, notepad, pens etc and keyboards for the mini-tower machine, the server and the Mac. Router for everything (most wires going through under the desk) and on a separate shelf a multi-function printer / scanner / fax / phone. A separate unit held old hardware, cables, printer supplies, CDs and DVDs and a 14" monitor for the server. This was all in one corner of a rather large hobby/office room with a full side taken up with bookshelves and model railway, and a walk-in toy cupboard at the end. Big french windows onto the patio open when warm. See here[^]
These days 99.9% of the time I just work on the sofa in the living room, with a laptop on my knee. Haven't used the server, Mac or mini-tower in years. Times change.
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I have most of the (finished) basement as my "office"; about 700 square feet. Have been able to claim it as an expense for tax purposes (self employed), though the insurance company balks at anything over 150 square feet for a "home" office: "Are you running a server farm?". No, I just have a lot of shelves, PC hardware, desks (one for circuit boards), printer, shredder, etc.
Most of the furniture is from IKEA; since you can sort of design your own and it's easy to take apart and move around if you need to.
I don't like putting machines on the floor, so everyone gets a desk or (kitchen) cart.
Major benefit of the basement - stays cool.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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I live in a small apartment.
My computer desk is in the living room.
Originally, it was my gaming space.
Now it's my Office/Gaming room (for the last 3 years, dear god, has it really been nearly 3 years !??!!)
I never really upgraded anything (except for the chair), but I really should.
CI/CD = Continuous Impediment/Continuous Despair
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I've never been much bothered by disparate things being in a space together, but my son is. He is very proficient in the design of objects built by his 3D printer, so his solution always begins there. He has designed many visually attractive containers and conduits tailored to specific needs, from a planet that holds cords, to a caddy for a variety of tea bags. When the item is too large for printing, he uses other lightweight materials like balsa wood, clear fishing line, and LED tape for a hanging light array over his workspace.
My advice: sit in the space and dream without judgement. Imagine all sorts of things that are silly and springboard from one to another until you get one that keeps coming back. Have fun.
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You have a blossoming consulting career 
Excellent thoughts.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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My office is around 12x10 in size, I think. We only measured it when we moved in around 28 years ago.
I have two desks; one, my large office and primary desk, and a second, smaller one, diagonally behind me.
I work on my laptop on my large desk mostly. It is simply more comfortable than with my workstation.
With my workstation, which is set up on my smaller desk, I have a 32inch LG flat screen. As a result, I mostly use my workstation for my flight simulations.
Surrounding me are literally scores of books mostly on my other interest, military history. They are all stuffed into areas on the floor and shelves that surround me against three walls.
I also have a brood of stuffed animals sitting about. My wife and I have always had a thing for Teddy Bears.
Most of our inorganic friends showed up from places we have no idea of.
We also have 3 aging cats. One is close to 20 and the other 2 are both 17.
Between the Teddy Bears arguing among each other and the cats making demands, it can get pretty noisy in there...
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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An Alienware Aurora R13 desktop to the left of the coding desk sitting on top of an APC 2200 UPS. Alienware laptop sitting on the right side of the coding desk. 4 large 38" Alienware curved Monitors in a 2x2 configuration between the 2 computer systems mounted to the wall with telescoping/adjustable arms. ShareMouse application to use both systems with a single mouse and keyboard. The desktop owns the left 2 monitors and the laptop owns the right 2 monitors plus its own embedded screen. Total of 5 monitors and all being used for various development/testing activities. Goodsync software to sync both development systems.
Printer/routers/NAS to the rear sitting on a filing cabinet behind where I sit.
modified 5-Dec-22 12:58pm.
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I have an office at a commercial location, but I took the time decades ago to build a custom furniture system, custom desk, cabinets, all in ergonomic and fashionable design and colors. I have a corner system with a very large corner desk, with a cutout to face the corner. And up above I have a long custom shelve that holds barcode printers, phones, radio, color printer. Down below is two 27" pieces of glass with a 3rd 24" glass that wraps around the desk. Ergonomic keyboard tray that supports wrist. I can plug in devices straight into my Das Pro 6 keyboard or front of my computer. All the printers are Networked and not USB.
I'm in the process of creating a 2nd work space in the garage, so I can be closer to some of my projects. I don't have a computer at home, well just an iPad Max and Dell Notebook that I don't use anymore. But the purpose of this 2nd environment is to be able to get away from my primary environment. Most of my ideas come from the garage, so now I can fire up a computer at home and work on other customer projects and of course my projects.
I bought a UpLift Desk this week, to sort of double as a computer desk and work bench if I need to work on things. I got all the bells and whistles and it's fully loaded. And I bought a new Sonic tool storage system that is smaller and taller, along with new modern tools for automotive work. Then I'm going to paint the walls, put in new lighting, and more cabinets to store things. This is my Garage 2.0 Project I finally committed to and the work begins this weekend.
Go on YouTube, and search home office makeovers, or coders keyboards. I was surprised at how many videos there are for FANG employees working from home and how they choose there setup, decorated, monitor glass, computer, keyboards, and painted while adding textures. There is one Asian kid that does nothing but home office makeovers and he's really good at it. I took some of his ideas for my Garage 2.0 Upgrade like the UpLift desk, and some of his wall storage systems.
If it ain't broke don't fix it
Discover my world at jkirkerx.com
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Suggesting youtube is an outstanding idea - hadn't considered going there at all.
Thank you
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I've been wanting to upgrade my garage, and bring home my old computer workstation to use in the garage, so I can have a 2nd environment to work in. And all the topics ranging from what color to paint the walls, what kind of lighting I should use, even down to how to calculate how many lights to buy and placement was on YouTube.
If you got the money, you could hire a custom furniture guy, the kind of furniture you see in banks like the teller stations and offices that have been customized like the reception area, and have a custom system built and installed. That's the route that I took for my commercial office. I use to be a contractor and worked on custom offices, hotels, and luxury resorts and ran into these guys all the time. One company did a trade with me, and built my furniture with custom laminate colors. All I had to do was take the measurements, draw it up and email it over to them. I had one customer that had the colors I liked, and their designer gave me the color codes, down to the carpet color and pattern. It was quite easy and worth every penny I paid.
If it ain't broke don't fix it
Discover my world at jkirkerx.com
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I appreciate the newer C++ standards like C++20 even though I haven't really done more than scratch the surface of it yet.
But one thing I have mixed feelings about is promoting STL things as part of the first class language features, like (an older but good example) for(:).
I have qualms about The STL, primarily around the way it uses memory, almost guaranteeing you need custom allocators and a custom heap for anything without gobs of RAM. Otherwise, fragmentation will nail you.
I *think* most of it works like C# where it's not explicitly tied to the library - as long as a separate library exposes the same features it will bind to it like foreach in C#. I'm good with that.
I just fear how far they are going to take it. How many features will a container eventually have to expose to take advantage of all the available language features that act on them for example?
Also, it feels like less of a mid level language now. I'm not sure how I feel about that.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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I just noticed this post. IMO the objections against the coupling between language/lib are somewhat academic. They make sense from a strict purist point of view. But I would argue that the practical view wins the race by miles. I have seen no further "coupling-creep" since the C++11. Or have I?
I wanted to see how those initial discussions went during the standardisation process, and instead I stumbled into this, a novelty for me, no idea if it went into the standard: Generalizing the Range-Based For Loop[^]
[...] which requires a range’s begin and end to have the same type. This paper proposes to lift that restriction for C++17
As for C++ being a mid-level language...
with template, I never regarded it as such. 
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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I just look at templates as fancy text preprocessing with a bit of typing and deduction mixed in. Never really considered it to elevate the language to a high level language, but to each their own.
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.
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Learned something new today:
there’s one name that is very important to the history of the mellotron. Mike Pinder. he worked at the mellotron factory back in the day, then later went to use the instrument in a little-known band called the Moody Blues…and started a revolution in the process! The Beatles used it, King Crimson used it, Genesis used it, Yes used it, Black Sabbath used it…the list of names who used this instrument is endless! The Mellotron: A Keyboard with the Power of an Orchestra (1965)
Moody Blues: The Voice
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Nice clip, I must say. I first heard of the Melotron [sic] in 1984, in connection with Tangerine Dream (or was it Kraftwerk?). There is also a German electro-band called Melotron, not entirely unlike Depeche Mode.
Bit odd that the trumpet continues after he releases that key, and begins just before he touches it: The Mellotron [at 1:39] - YouTube[^] Still is a nice clip though.
"If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"
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That was the expensive, psychic model. So expensive that it couldn't be purchased off the shelf.
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Although I'd seen a photo of a Mellotron in Wakeman's Six Wives of Henry VIIIth, I'd never read a description of how one actually worked, and its controls seemed strangely minimalist. So at a Yes concert in 1975, I went over to the mixing console and asked Eddie Offord, "How does a Mellotron work?"
"Not very well", he replied. I thought he was being something of a smart ass but later learned that he was speaking the truth. 
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I'm a great fan of the Moody Blues, and Mike Pinder! I think I still have most, if not all of the albums they released on vinyl.
Will Rogers never met me.
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A Hammond B-3 weighed 425 lbs, not sure what the Leslie speaker you'd want would add to that.
A Mellotron would have been a lot lighter, but I wonder how temperature differences touring during the winter would have messed up the tapes.
I wonder if recording the signal on the edges of wheels would have worked better...
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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OriginalGriff wrote: Woo! Lucky guess!
Wait... theres luck involved? 
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