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do you have an example? I think it's memory vs speed. How dll's were born.
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Reading a configuration file instead of hard-coding things is an example. Even just waiting until runtime to allocate an array qualifies.
When C++ calculates things at compile time, it's usually a case of using more memory to run faster, at least when templates are involved. And a DLL is the opposite, running slower to save memory.
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You are right, configuration files would qualify.
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I agree with second part about templates and DLL's, memory / speed trade offs.
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Multix operating system was the mother of DLL's.
Multics - Wikipedia[^]
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Greg Utas wrote: When C++ calculates things at compile time, it's usually a case of using more memory to run faster, at least when templates are involved.
I disagree with this. Where I'm using templates to do precomputed things, it's not increasing memory use at all, but simply flexibility of my API.
For example, an RGB565 pixel is 16 bits, with 5 bits for Red, 6 bits for Green and 5 bits for Blue
To pick off or set individual channels requires bitshifting and masking
I use templates to facilitate
A) Querying pixels, so you can do like rgb_pixel<16>::has_channel_names<channel_name::R, channel_name::G>::value (will be bool true)
B) Picking/Setting off arbitrary pixel channel data like px.template channel<channel_name::G>(); which returns the green channel
C) Doing bitmap manipulation using the binary footprint implied by the constructed pixels, which can have any number of channels with any sort of names - RGB is just one example)
None of this is about trading speed for memory.
It's about buying flexibility. Period.
There is no case in GFX where I use computed compilation to trade performance aspects. It's all about flexibility while maintaining the same kind of performance you get without it.
In fact, forgive me but I can't think of a situation like you describe.
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I'm not talking about your particular example.
Memory usage depends on how many instantiations of a template you end up creating. If a small number, doing things at compile time might actually yield a savings. But the way templates are generally used will produce multiple copies of more or less the same code unless the compiler is very clever. There is an Embedded C++ standard that removes templates (and exceptions and RTTI) for this reason, though most systems now have so much memory that I doubt many people still use it.
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You're talking about binary size. I see. Yes there is some code bloat, but it all depends on what you're doing.
In some cases - surprisingly more than even I would have expected - you won't be duplicating any more code than you would by hand.
This code is a good example. There's virtually zero template overhead for multiple instantiations. It doesn't mean some code isn't duplicated, but you would have had to duplicate that duplicated code if you made each instantiation by hand.
htcw_tft_io/tft_spi.hpp at master · codewitch-honey-crisis/htcw_tft_io · GitHub[^]
Forgive me, because earlier I thought you were talking about runtime memory usage, not binary size.
I should add that while it's true in many cases that binary size increases memory usage, this is not true on most of the platforms I develop on these days. Hence your meaning in your assertion was completely off my radar. 
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Precomputed sin tables. If you want to do sin computations it's a pretty complicated math formula for a computer. You can precompute tables to do your sins. You can use memory to hold those precomputed sins which you either computed on startup, or computed using the compiler and embedded in your executables .text section or whatever, but either way it ends up using RAM to hold it. Then when you want to compute a sin, it's a simple array lookup, at least assuming your operand is contained in the table.
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Precomputed trig, logs, etc. is pretty old school and very fast. If you have to do a lot of them and accuracy is not so critical, tables are the way to go. Most modern CPU's are usually fast enough to handle non-pre-computed math functions on a need to use basis. I am glad you brought this up. Gave me a reason to research this topic. Thanx
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Math co-precessors for intel CPU's were at first a separate chip (really old days) then became built-in.
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